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    different punishment for similar offence - why?

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    • A Offline
      AC_Power
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      Joule:

      actually, WW was snitched upon by his ex-staff who was fired for stealing from his clinic.

      from what I recall,
      she knew about the case and told them but police delayed investigating as she had her own case pending (stealing from his clinic, obviously).

      so after her case was done, they had to investigate.
      This is something new. I didn't know the whistleblower is an ex-staff who stole from his clinic.

      Should that be the case, I believe there must be a reason why the police want to settle the theft case before moving on.

      As far as I am concern, as long as justice is meted out, I do not care how long it takes the police to charge the person in court.

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        verykiasu2010
        last edited by

        last time got well known senior dr in age doctor drunk and drove fast fast right, and got into accident ? many years ago liao


        sure got old people speeding one

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          Imami
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          hquek:
          experienced before so can confirm. if one is caught speeding etc and the summons is mailed, it will be sent to the car owner. Car owner then must fill in who is the person behind the wheel at time of offence.

          Yup, yup

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            Way2GO
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            AC_Power:


            If the Kuan fella never take the rap and paid the fine, why are we discussing about this today? For such traffic summons, the traffic police will not go into details as to probe whether it is possible for the old man to drive that fast. It is not a murder case.

            Kuan certainly has a valid driving licence. If not, he will be charged for driving the car without valid licence and coupled with the speeding offence, he will be jailed.

            The only thing fishy is the charge preferred against WW - why under RTA and not the normal 182 Penal Code. This is totally out of the norm.
            u certain old man Kuan paid d fine for speeding?
            To my knowledge, dis was not reported.
            Wat u said proves my point dat if dis was treated as a run-of -d-mill speeding case if it was investigated at all.
            I wld hv thot dat a more diligent IO wld be alerted to certain unusual aspects of d driver/car details n probed further.

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              Way2GO
              last edited by

              verykiasu2010:
              last time got well known senior dr in age doctor drunk and drove fast fast right, and got into accident ? many years ago liao


              sure got old people speeding one
              If drunk, he already hv no clear sense of how fast he is driving, tio bo?
              drunk + old, lagi slow response.

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                AC_Power
                last edited by

                Way2GO:


                u certain old man Kuan paid d fine for speeding?
                To my knowledge, dis was not reported.
                Wat u said proves my point dat if dis was treated as a run-of -d-mill speeding case if it was investigated at all.
                I wld hv thot dat a more diligent IO wld be alerted to certain unusual aspects of d driver/car details n probed further.
                If old man Kuan did not pay the fine, who did it for WW to be faced with the charges for getting someone to take the rap now? We all know that once driver's particulars ascertained, the driver will be issued with a summon to pay the fine within a certain period and failing which, he will have to attend court.

                One way or another, that speeding summons will not drag for 6 years.

                You are having unrealistic expectation from a traffic IO. They are handling strict liability cases - beating red lights, speeding, illegal parking. For such cases, they do not even need to think about why did the driver speed, why they beat red light, why they illegal park at that location.

                They just find out who is responsible, based on the law, how much to be fined, send the summons to the driver.

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                  AC_Power
                  last edited by

                  Way2GO:
                  verykiasu2010:

                  last time got well known senior dr in age doctor drunk and drove fast fast right, and got into accident ? many years ago liao


                  sure got old people speeding one

                  If drunk, he already hv no clear sense of how fast he is driving, tio bo?
                  drunk + old, lagi slow response.

                  regardless of age and gender, there will be speedster.

                  We can't really say old man kuan is old, hence unlikely he will speed.

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                    chenwj
                    last edited by

                    by removing the post, the blogger admitted he is in the wrong... :censored:


                    http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC120712-0000047/Blogger-removes-post-on-Woffles-Wu-case

                    Blogger removes post on Woffles Wu case
                    04:46 AM Jul 12, 2012
                    by Amir Hussain

                    SINGAPORE - The author of the Yawning Bread blog has taken down a post on the case involving prominent surgeon Woffles Wu and posted a letter of apology after being contacted by the Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC).

                    In the letter of apology, Mr Alex Au said his June 18 post, \"Woffles Wu case hits a nerve\", scandalised the courts and misrepresented various facts in relation to the case.

                    Wu, 52, had abetted Mr Kuan Yit Wah, 83, in providing misleading information to the police for a speeding offence involving his car in November 2006. Wu was fined S$1,000, while Mr Kuan was given a stern warning. There was no evidence of payment or gratification given to Mr Kuan.

                    In a letter served via email to Mr Au last Friday, the AGC said the blog post \"alleges that our courts are biased towards those whom you describe as well-connected\". Describing Mr Au's allegations as \"scurrilous and false\", the AGC noted that Mr Au referred to past cases without specifying them.

                    The AGC added: \"In essence you allege that our entire judicial system has been biased for a long time.\"

                    It also pointed out that Mr Au's \"allegation of judicial bias … is based on a number of distortions on the facts of the case.\"

                    Specifically, Mr Au had implied that Wu was treated favourably by being charged under section 81(3) of the Road Traffic Act instead of section 182 of the Penal Code, said the AGC.

                    It pointed out that before February 2008, both sections attracted the \"same maximum fines and the same maximum custodial sentence\" of six months.

                    The AGC also noted that the cases Mr Au cited had involved false statements \"used to cover up more serious offences like rash driving, drink driving, driving without a licence and so on\".

                    It said: \"Cases show that when the false declaration related to a minor offence, such as speeding just above the warning range and which is normally compoundable (as in the Woffles Wu case), generally a fine was imposed.\"

                    In its letter to Mr Au, the AGC said it would not commence proceedings for contempt of court if he withdrew his post within five days and published the AGC's letter and an enclosed apology. In a press release yesterday, it reiterated that Mr Au's \"serious allegations\" scandalised the courts.

                    The AGC confirmed that the post was taken down by Tuesday and the apology put up in its place.

                    But it added: \"Mr Au did not however post the letter from AGC as he was asked to. A reminder was sent to him on (Tuesday) of the requirement to post the letter as well; he was asked to do so within two days of the date of the reminder.\"

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                      verykiasu2010
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                      That is why I always say, don’t say unsubstantiated stuff unless you can back it up


                      who knows one day MOE will refer to AGC on unfounded aspersion cast on their schools and teachers, esp sweeping comments like "teachers don’t teach"

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                        3Boys
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                        verykiasu2010:
                        That is why I always say, don't say unsubstantiated stuff unless you can back it up


                        who knows one day MOE will refer to AGC on unfounded aspersion cast on their schools and teachers, esp sweeping comments like \"teachers don't teach\"
                        Unfortunately, if people say it often enough, and no one stands up against it and say \"Show Me.\", it'll just sink in and become accepted 'truth'.

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