Are you happy you have been heard by MOE...
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concern2:
ksi, I couldn't decide, cos basically, it doesn't make any difference to me since it isn't our fees that has been lowered in comparison to non-citizens. But you are right, this is a baby step towards making further differences. Um...how long has this issue been sat on for this baby step to happen har :?
No, actually I don't have much feelings about the fees directly except that MOE has taken some action, at least we know what they are busy with.ksi:
[quote=\"nansk\"]
With P1 registration priority, I totally understand and agree with the changes. But with the fees, there is no direct benefit to Sg children. Are you honestly feeling better/happier after reading this news? Not me.
A baby step is better than no step, maybe I am easily contented.
Think by the time the tuition issue comes about, our kids would have left school. :sad: (hope not cos of being kicked-out kind
)[/quote]Yeah concern2, part of me is also asking myself, if there are many things to be unhappy with, which ones do I choose? This move could be viewed as a half-empty or half-full glass.... So I choose half-full to treat myself better and I feel appreciation may give people more energy to work the next mile.
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ksi:
:goodpost:
Yeah concern2, part of me is also asking myself, if there are many things to be unhappy with, which ones do I choose? This move could be viewed as a half-empty or half-full glass.... So I choose half-full to treat myself better and I feel appreciation may give people more energy to work the next mile. -
Hi resgmom
101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children’s education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc…And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes? -
Steadyberry:
Maybe that is the ultimate aim - killing 2 birds with 1 stone. A good political move, very much aligned with the current direction. Singaporeans? It makes no difference to us, like I've mentioned earlier.Hi resgmom
101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children's education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc....And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes? -
concern2:
This is a good point.
Maybe that is the ultimate aim - killing 2 birds with 1 stone. A good political move, very much aligned with the current direction. Singaporeans? It makes no difference to us, like I've mentioned earlier.Steadyberry:
Hi resgmom
101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children's education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc....And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes?
The increased citizens were probably seen when the P1 priority changes... -
peterch:
Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIW
Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?nansk:
[quote=\"ksi\"]Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....
to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?
Cheers[/quote]Well, the ministries have the statistics to know how to do the sums. I do not think this new policy is made based solely on feedback. What is CMIIW? I only know CMI-cannot make it.
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peterch:
Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIW
Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?nansk:
[quote=\"ksi\"]Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....
to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?
Cheers[/quote]is a political move, nothing to do with finance
just to fulfill the singaporeans come first promise and to placate the sweeping statements often seen about foreigners more equal than citizens
just want to be seen that foreigners are paying more -
ksi:
CMIIW - correct me if i'm wrong
Well, the ministries have the statistics to know how to do the sums. I do not think this new policy is made based solely on feedback. What is CMIIW? I only know CMI-cannot make it.
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peterch:
Thank you.. I learn something new.
CMIIW - correct me if i'm wrongksi:
Well, the ministries have the statistics to know how to do the sums. I do not think this new policy is made based solely on feedback. What is CMIIW? I only know CMI-cannot make it.
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verykiasu2010:
is a political move, nothing to do with finance
Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIWpeterch:
[quote=\"nansk\"]
Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?
Cheers
just to fulfill the singaporeans come first promise and to placate the sweeping statements often seen about foreigners more equal than citizens
just want to be seen that foreigners are paying more[/quote]vk2010, have you spoken to any ministers lately? :evil:
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