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    Are you happy you have been heard by MOE...

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    • janet88J Offline
      janet88
      last edited by

      nansk:
      Oppsgal:

      Wish they could give free school uniforms out and free textbooks too. 😉


      No use free textbooks. We want free assessment books. 😉

      1) No use giving textbooks...they are lousy.
      2) As for assessment books, i think this is not that helpful either. Child doesn't really learn much from doing assessment book.
      3) Ultimately, give us teachers who can teach properly like is/are/am, pronouns, adjectives etc etc.

      Erm...am I heard ?

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      • P Offline
        peterch
        last edited by

        nansk:
        ksi:

        Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....

        to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?

        Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?

        Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIW

        Cheers

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        • corneyAmberC Offline
          corneyAmber
          last edited by

          concern2:
          ksi:

          [quote=\"nansk\"]

          With P1 registration priority, I totally understand and agree with the changes. But with the fees, there is no direct benefit to Sg children. Are you honestly feeling better/happier after reading this news? Not me.

          No, actually I don't have much feelings about the fees directly except that MOE has taken some action, at least we know what they are busy with. 😂 A baby step is better than no step, maybe I am easily contented.

          ksi, I couldn't decide, cos basically, it doesn't make any difference to me since it isn't our fees that has been lowered in comparison to non-citizens. But you are right, this is a baby step towards making further differences. Um...how long has this issue been sat on for this baby step to happen har :?
          Think by the time the tuition issue comes about, our kids would have left school. :sad: (hope not cos of being kicked-out kind 😆 )[/quote]Yeah concern2, part of me is also asking myself, if there are many things to be unhappy with, which ones do I choose? This move could be viewed as a half-empty or half-full glass.... So I choose half-full to treat myself better and I feel appreciation may give people more energy to work the next mile.

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          • F Offline
            fightingmom
            last edited by

            ksi:

            Yeah concern2, part of me is also asking myself, if there are many things to be unhappy with, which ones do I choose? This move could be viewed as a half-empty or half-full glass.... So I choose half-full to treat myself better and I feel appreciation may give people more energy to work the next mile.
            :goodpost:

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            • S Offline
              Steadyberry
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              Hi resgmom


              101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children’s education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc…And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes?

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                concern2
                last edited by

                Steadyberry:
                Hi resgmom


                101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children's education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc....And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes?
                Maybe that is the ultimate aim - killing 2 birds with 1 stone. A good political move, very much aligned with the current direction. Singaporeans? It makes no difference to us, like I've mentioned earlier.

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                • corneyAmberC Offline
                  corneyAmber
                  last edited by

                  concern2:
                  Steadyberry:

                  Hi resgmom


                  101% agree with you. What exactly singaporeans get when PRs like myself pay more for my children's education? I can only imagine more PRs will apply for Sg citizenships and entitle to the same benefits as Sg citizens. Even before the changes to P1 registration, I hv PR friends either the husband or wife but not both of them applied for citizenship just to get baby bonus, pay lesser for childcare, no sch fees & etc....And 1 PR couple who applied for phase 2b (church). Their 1st child did not get in so they went for plan b. The wife applied for sg citizenship (she got it) and they are moving near to one of the Gep schools soon. Bec of the changes to the p1 registration, their 2nd child will hv a higher chance of getting into the gep school and they will apply for transfer of their 1st child to the gep sch. And in the meantime, she is enjoying all the benefits that singaporeans are entitled to. So what exactly singaporeans get or benefit from all these changes?

                  Maybe that is the ultimate aim - killing 2 birds with 1 stone. A good political move, very much aligned with the current direction. Singaporeans? It makes no difference to us, like I've mentioned earlier.

                  This is a good point.
                  The increased citizens were probably seen when the P1 priority changes...

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                  • corneyAmberC Offline
                    corneyAmber
                    last edited by

                    peterch:
                    nansk:

                    [quote=\"ksi\"]Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....

                    to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?

                    Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?

                    Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIW

                    Cheers[/quote]Well, the ministries have the statistics to know how to do the sums. I do not think this new policy is made based solely on feedback. What is CMIIW? I only know CMI-cannot make it. 😄

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                      verykiasu2010
                      last edited by

                      peterch:
                      nansk:

                      [quote=\"ksi\"]Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....

                      to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?

                      Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?

                      Actually, I wonder... How much MOE will get as an addition to these increase. I mean, is it really a significant number of students affected with these new fees? What's the percentage as I think more than half of FT and PR has no kid or at least the kid is not here in Singapore. CMIIW

                      Cheers[/quote]is a political move, nothing to do with finance

                      just to fulfill the singaporeans come first promise and to placate the sweeping statements often seen about foreigners more equal than citizens

                      just want to be seen that foreigners are paying more

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                      • P Offline
                        peterch
                        last edited by

                        ksi:


                        Well, the ministries have the statistics to know how to do the sums. I do not think this new policy is made based solely on feedback. What is CMIIW? I only know CMI-cannot make it. 😄
                        CMIIW - correct me if i'm wrong 🙂

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