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    City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

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    • C Offline
      concern2
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      Way2GO:
      cel-tang:

      I am not a christian but I find that what the media is reporting is one-sided. No mention of the good they have done. True, the good they do does not make them right but this is not a case of taking money for their personal gain but more for advancing their project to do good works. Singing maybe one way Sun took to try to do that.


      Just talked to a colleague who is from another church, Cornerstone, who shared how Pastor Kong has impacted christianity in singapore. I was surprised that they have done so much but the only reports that come out are all negative. And most people take great pleasure in seeing them fall.

      An interesting article I saw on facebook written by a muslim. Food for thought.
      https://www.facebook.com/notes/mohammad-nizam-abdul-kadir/city-harvest-church-the-views-of-a-muslim-singaporean-remember-operation-spectru/359495054082723

      Just finish reading d link u posted.
      So d rather long prologue was to introduce a conspiracy theory
      - wat do u think?

      Sorry, I didn't finish reading the whole article - got to the part where it says going to hollywood and how using that style to appeal to the people there - it just doesn't sound right to me, though I can't explain why. I just skipped the rest of it.

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        concern2
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        WeiHan:
        why do people want to mix politic with a simple issue of breaching of law? Do they harbor evil intention?

        You've expressed my secret thoughts. This reminds me of the \"tongue-in-cheek\" article posted earlier in this thread from other sources, with the writer linking KH to the political win. Sniff, sniff. Fishy.
        WeiHan:
        If KH can be acquitted, isn't Ming Yi over charged? The money involved is many times larger and the sophistication to falsify and cover up multiple level higher.
        Good point, WeiHan!

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          Daddy D
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          Dreamaurora:
          Way2GO:

          Just read CHC latest press release.

          :slapshead:
          Looks like CHC is on a collision course with d authorities
          in spite of DPM TCH taking d precaution to make a public statement to separate church fr d actions of individuals involved.

          Yes, the press release took me by surprise too. I thought DPM TCH already subtly hinted at them the course of actions they should take. At the very least, I think people expect that those being charged to be relinquished of their duties until the trial is over, whether they are guilty or not. Now it seems like they are going to rally the entire church against this charge and still let the affected pastors preach.

          Well done... CHC showdown with CAD?
          Getting interesting...
          :siam:

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            looking4Tutor
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            tankee:
            BeContented:

            If Kong is really guilty and his supporters still blindly support and think he should be freed and not be punished because of the good deeds he had done.....


            Wonder what were their thoughts during the time when TT Durai and the Ming Yi were found to be guilty? Same standard applied?

            Both Durai and Ming Yi continued to have some supporters after bring found guilty.

            birds of a feather flock together.
            Friend of mine told be that he had left the Bible Presbyterian church to join CH because Bible Presbyterian is too rigid, whereas CH endorsed his life-style.

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              looking4Tutor
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              One Lie Leads To Another Lie


              By so called reputable people we so often are misled
              And one lie leads to another lie as we often have heard said
              And to cover up for one lie another lie you must tell
              'Tis a thorny path to heaven but an easy path to hell.

              One lie leads to another lie that always is the case
              Your first lie for deception and your second to save face
              And when you are faced with the truth the truth you will deny
              And to lie to you comes easy so you tell another lie.

              One lie leads to another lie if what you say is untrue
              Then another lie you must tell and your lies won't stop at two
              But the truth of guilt will free you though the truth can be hard to speak
              And to lie is always easy and 'tis easy to be weak.

              Look at ex President Bill Clinton to millions of people he lied
              When his affair with Monica Lewinsky in public he denied
              Had he told the truth in the first place of guilt he would have set himself free
              But he took for him the easy option and he lied quite easily.

              One lie leads to another lie and to more lies that will lead
              And to cover for the lies you've already told a good memory you need
              And though the truth at times is hard to speak the truth will serve you best
              For the truth will always ring true in a lie detector test.
              Francis Duggan

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                kwcllf
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                looking4Tutor:
                tankee:

                [quote=\"BeContented\"]If Kong is really guilty and his supporters still blindly support and think he should be freed and not be punished because of the good deeds he had done.....


                Wonder what were their thoughts during the time when TT Durai and the Ming Yi were found to be guilty? Same standard applied?

                Both Durai and Ming Yi continued to have some supporters after bring found guilty.

                birds of a feather flock together.
                Friend of mine told be that he had left the Bible Presbyterian church to join CH because Bible Presbyterian is too rigid, whereas CH endorsed his life-style.[/quote]Including KH telling his flock to go for plastic surgery......this kind of lifestyle huh!

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                  looking4Tutor
                  last edited by

                  kwcllf:

                  Including KH telling his flock to go for plastic surgery......this kind of lifestyle huh!
                  maybe he wants to see more girls in his formal church to dress up like a infamous singer.

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                    BeContented
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                    looking4Tutor:
                    kwcllf:


                    Including KH telling his flock to go for plastic surgery......this kind of lifestyle huh!

                    maybe he wants to see more girls in his formal church to dress up like a infamous singer.

                    So that they can have more 'undercovers' who will sacrifice & infiltrate the inner circles & reach out to pros, nightclubs etc?!?! :skeptical:
                    :oops:
                    Ok ok. For me to speak openly like this = I seriously cannot reconcile with all that is happening.

                    The action/effort taken to falsify the accounts speaks volume too, yet still deny. Yooohoooo I not blind :roll:

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                      kwcllf
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                      BeContented:
                      looking4Tutor:

                      [quote=\"kwcllf\"]
                      Including KH telling his flock to go for plastic surgery......this kind of lifestyle huh!

                      maybe he wants to see more girls in his formal church to dress up like a infamous singer.

                      [/quote]Go to church = Lifestyle ??

                      Just hope these people don't get brainwashed.

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                        Lilac66
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                        I’m shocked by the audacity of this pastor Aries to challenge CAD and deny the allegations of cheating. These people think that by using "reasons" like it’s for furthering God’s work, reaching out to the secular world thru SH’s music, then no stones should be thrown at them.

                        How the funds have been raised is not the issue . Huh, he thinks that we’re fools or what?? He even claimed they have been pre-judged and "will deal with this in due course". Where did this BIG EGO come from?

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