Origin of Koreans > Vietnamese?

[Ichigokun]

pinky:

maybe that's why there are many viet women marrying korean men (through agency) :evil: so they are actually yi jia ren (one family tree)

Isit coincidental that Koreans and Vietnamese both have the same thinking mindset.

Look, North Vietnam and North Korea are both communist.

Both South Vietnam and South Korea are both democratic.

Both Vietnam AND Korea have civil wars during the 1950s (Korea) and 1970s (Vietnam)

Of Course, in Vietnam's case, North Vietnam won in the Vietnam war and now the entire Vietnam is communist, so there's not much development happening in Vietnam over the years.

In Korea, there is no winner and no loser. Thus, South Korea has developed a lot, while North Korea is still hiding behind the shade of communism, like Vietnam, and hasn't developed much.

If only South Vietnam won in the Vietnam war, I think, today, South Vietnam would be just have the same modern development as South Korea.

I mean, look, the first democratic president of South Korea is a Vietnamese. Imagine if that president, Syngman Rhee, developed in Vietnam instead.

[Way2GO]

Ichigokun:

pinky:

maybe that's why there are many viet women marrying korean men (through agency) :evil: so they are actually yi jia ren (one family tree)

Isit coincidental that Koreans and Vietnamese both have the same thinking mindset.

Look, North Vietnam and North Korea are both communist.

Both South Vietnam and South Korea are both democratic.

Both Vietnam AND Korea have civil wars during the 1950s (Korea) and 1970s (Vietnam)

Of Course, in Vietnam's case, North Vietnam won in the Vietnam war and now the entire Vietnam is communist, so there's not much development happening in Vietnam over the years.

In Korea, there is no winner and no loser. Thus, South Korea has developed a lot, while North Korea is still hiding behind the shade of communism, like Vietnam, and hasn't developed much.

If only South Vietnam won in the Vietnam war, I think, today, South Vietnam would be just have the same modern development as South Korea.

I mean, look, the first democratic president of South Korea is a Vietnamese. Imagine if that president, Syngman Rhee, developed in Vietnam instead.

Ichi,
If one keeps repeating something often enuf, it cld then becomes d truth. Be careful.
Syngman Rhee is not Vietnamese. He trace his roots to one of d older Korean dynasty, Joseon IRRC.

u r also mistaken about d Vietnamese being d original Koreans.
d Koreans, as a distinct group, were already in existence on d peninsular for many centuries before d migration of some Vietnamese to Korea in d 12th century AD (thereabout, I can't recall d exact period).
The descendants of these early Vietnamese migrants hv now started to return to Vietnam to do biz.

d split in Korea n Vietnam were d result of deliberate actions during d Cold War by d Western capitalist powers to stop d spread of communist hegemony just after WW2.
Do u know SG was a supply base for d American forces fighting in d Vietnam War?

[Ichigokun]

@Way2GO;

What does IRRC mean? o_o

Something tells me now that Koreans MIGHT be related to Chinese people living in the Shandong Peninsula.

In the past, Shandong Peninsula was connected to the Korean peninsula.

The easternmost tip of Shandong peninsula, Rongcheng is less than 300 kilometers away from the westernmost tip of South Korea, Gyeonggi-do (Although there are places in North Korea that are even more western than Gyeonggi-do, but I’m unable to get hold of what that place’s name is.

Even better still, in North Korea, their land is connected to Manchuria, which was occupied by Chinese in the past and they would have some intermixture.

Hmm… I’m just curious, why do ancient Korean historical books name the Chinese dynasty kingdom as 天朝, Chinese army as 天兵 and Chinese court clothes as 天服？

[chenwj]

Some say the Japanese are actually Chinese.

[cherrygal]

There are so many minority groups in China and there is a group called the 朝鲜族. Chaoxian is also known as Chosun or what North Korea is called now.


This genealogy thing is so interesting.

I also heard that the Northern Indians have Greek blood as Alexander the Great’s soldiers had occupied parts of what is now known as Kashmir. That is why some of the bollywood actors look so angmo.

[Way2GO]

Ichigokun:

@Way2GO;

What does IRRC mean? o_o

Solli, my typo error
I meant IIRC : If I Recall/Remember Correctly

Ichigokun:

Something tells me now that Koreans MIGHT be related to Chinese people living in the Shandong Peninsula.

In the past, Shandong Peninsula was connected to the Korean peninsula.

The easternmost tip of Shandong peninsula, Rongcheng is less than 300 kilometers away from the westernmost tip of South Korea, Gyeonggi-do (Although there are places in North Korea that are even more western than Gyeonggi-do, but I'm unable to get hold of what that place's name is.

:rotflmao:
Yesterday it was Vietnamese, n now its Chinese?
Ichi, u r a joker but I like ur inquisitiveness.
Was Shandong ever physically connected to d Korean peninsular?
Can show link if any?
n westernmost point of South Korea is Baekryeong Island - u referring to dis location?
I remember dis coz its located near to d DMZ n was a hive of intelligence activities before n during d Korean War. Maybe it still is.

Ichigokun:

Even better still, in North Korea, their land is connected to Manchuria, which was occupied by Chinese in the past and they would have some intermixture.

I think dis is closer to d truth.
d Koreans hv a long interconnected history with China n Manchuria;
so I wouldn't be surprised by cross breeding of d races.

Ichigokun:

Hmm... I'm just curious, why do ancient Korean historical books name the Chinese dynasty kingdom as 天朝, Chinese army as 天兵 and Chinese court clothes as 天服？

I don't know dis wan.
My guess: Korea was for many centuries, a vassal state of China.
maybe its a form of proper address fr a tribute state.

[Way2GO]

chenwj:

Some say the Japanese are actually Chinese.

If one traces d supposedly migratory paths espoused by some scholars,
all mankind issue forth fr dark Africa.
Then it is possible dat d Japanese race crossed over fr China proper.
However, new research in DNA hypo groupings hv shown d Japanese race to be quite distinct fr d Chinese.
d Japanese race is not homogeneous. IIRC, d original Japanese ppl was d Ainu. d Okinawans r probably closest to Chinese.

[Way2GO]

cherrygal:

There are so many minority groups in China and there is a group called the 朝鲜族. Chaoxian is also known as Chosun or what North Korea is called now.


This genealogy thing is so interesting.

I also heard that the Northern Indians have Greek blood as Alexander the Great's soldiers had occupied parts of what is now known as Kashmir. That is why some of the bollywood actors look so angmo.

History records dat Alexander d Great's army striked into d Indian subcontinent as far south as present day Pakistan n Punjab.
methink d fair Northern Indians like to associate themselves more with Aryan lineage than descendants of a subdued ppl conquered by d Greeks.

[Ichigokun]

I think Japanese are a mix of Jomon (Ainu) and Yayoi (Chinese) people.


Japanese are definitely related to Ainu since they have a high concentration of Old Asian D lineage, shared only with the Ainu in Northeast Asia.

India is very diverse. Mongoloid Asian people can be found in Northeast India. Northwest India would have some Caucasoid lineages since many Aryans have invaded from the Northwest and other Caucasoid races did too. (Pakistanis are mostly white, if u realize) South India like Tamil Nadu are Austronesian and Dravidian races. Austronesians are like the Southeast Asian natives, Australian aborigines, Hawaiian Aborigines etc.

Negroids can be found in the Andamanese Islands of India. (They have completely no new Asian blood like O. They only have old Asian blood like C and D. And the percentage lineage of old Asian blood is 100%.

The Andamanese tribal language is totally unintelligible with any other language. This shows how isolated these tribal people were.

Considering the fact that they have totally no O DNA lineage, they had no contact with foreigners nor did they marry each other.

[Ichigokun]

Interesting to note that Ainu are Sundaland (Southeast Asia)-related people.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinodonty_and_Sundadonty