City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

[csc]

What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?

[phtthp]

Thanks for guidance, patagonia.


after i click, i dun see any black screen.
never mind. think something wrong with my pc.

[patagonia]

phtthp:

Thanks for guidance, patagonia.


after i click, i dun see any black screen.
never mind. think something wrong with my pc.

It's looks that. http://i47.tinypic.com/28t9py.png\">

It is in a new screen or new tab, depending on your machine. Disable your pop-up blocker if necessary. Send me a message if you need further technical help, so we don't clog up this thread.

[patagonia]

csc:

What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?

Prosperity preaching. You have to hear it to (dis)believe it.

[kwcllf]

csc:

What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?

Towards the end of his speech after trying to brainwash the audience that everyone must give before God returns the favour, KH asked the audience to give $100, then up the stake to $500, then $1,000, then $2,000 and FINALLY for those that God had spoken to their heart, they are told to \"empty everything you got\".

Cutting the story short, people are asked to give, give and give.

The whole speech is like a sales speech. We get alot of these in commercials like - it is not $1,000, not even $800, not even $600 if you buy online. Only for Today. Today only and only once you will find this offer, it is selling for $500......... You know what I mean

You really must listen to the video. Totally shocking!

[kwcllf]

empressplace:

The following podcast from the same website shows how KH himself views the 6 months of investigations in 2010.


http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/06/ed-youngs-calvinist-melt-down.html
Listen from 16.00 to 23.00.

Really must listen to this as well.

KH said the voice of the tender loving Father has spoken to him and apologising to him that he must go through his ordeal. He also said God even thanked him and want him \"to be the man and ministry\"......blah, blah, blah......

[csc]

Listening now… have not reached KH part yet .

[Lyddon]

concern2:

patagonia:

My 5-year old nephew recently told my mum, \"Por por, you can't go to Heaven because you don't go to church.\" My mum wasn't offended, but was sad that he's 'brainwashed' at such young age. In my mum's simple and uneducated mind, kids should be given a chance to learn and be exposed to different religions before they make their own decision at a later stage. I totally agree.

Thanks for sharing this, patagonia. My son also came back from school one day, asking me this question, \"Mummy, xxx said that if I am not a Christian, I will go to hell, is that true?\"

My answer to him was,\"Just be good, and do good deeds, be the best you can, and not to cause hurt or harm to others. When your time comes, whether you go to hell or go to heaven, it is for God to decide. We are still living on earth, so live your life well, don't be too overly concerned about these things.\"

He liked my answer and went away happily. Frankly, I was also caught off guard with that question, and it was the best I could come up with on the spot. Guess that's what I think unconsciously.

:goodpost:
I also believe in being as decent/good a person as one can be.

But what the definition of Good, decent? Have an open mind and read widely on different religions and schools of thought (eg. readings from Lao zhi)...

[patagonia]

csc:

Listening now.. have not reached KH part yet .

My dear, if you are listening to 'Fleecing of Masses'.. move the clip to 39:30 and you'll hear his sermon right away.

[phtthp]

Yes, better to fast foward to KH part direct, for those who can assess properly.