City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged
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empressplace:
Really must listen to this as well.The following podcast from the same website shows how KH himself views the 6 months of investigations in 2010.
http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/06/ed-youngs-calvinist-melt-down.html
Listen from 16.00 to 23.00.
KH said the voice of the tender loving Father has spoken to him and apologising to him that he must go through his ordeal. He also said God even thanked him and want him \"to be the man and ministry\"......blah, blah, blah...... -
Listening now… have not reached KH part yet .
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concern2:
:goodpost:
Thanks for sharing this, patagonia. My son also came back from school one day, asking me this question, \"Mummy, xxx said that if I am not a Christian, I will go to hell, is that true?\"patagonia:
My 5-year old nephew recently told my mum, \"Por por, you can't go to Heaven because you don't go to church.\" My mum wasn't offended, but was sad that he's 'brainwashed' at such young age. In my mum's simple and uneducated mind, kids should be given a chance to learn and be exposed to different religions before they make their own decision at a later stage. I totally agree.
My answer to him was,\"Just be good, and do good deeds, be the best you can, and not to cause hurt or harm to others. When your time comes, whether you go to hell or go to heaven, it is for God to decide. We are still living on earth, so live your life well, don't be too overly concerned about these things.\"
He liked my answer and went away happily. Frankly, I was also caught off guard with that question, and it was the best I could come up with on the spot. Guess that's what I think unconsciously.
I also believe in being as decent/good a person as one can be.
But what the definition of Good, decent? Have an open mind and read widely on different religions and schools of thought (eg. readings from Lao zhi)... -
csc:
Listening now.. have not reached KH part yet .
My dear, if you are listening to 'Fleecing of Masses'.. move the clip to 39:30 and you'll hear his sermon right away. -
Yes, better to fast foward to KH part direct, for those who can assess properly.
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patagonia:
If I very free, go to CHC every week and at the end of it all - remain thick skin/thick headed, unmoved, don't tith, and pose a lot of questions on their interpretations of the bible.csc:
What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?
Prosperity preaching. You have to hear it to (dis)believe it.
... wonder what will happen to me? Kenna kick out? -
Lyddon:
If I very free, go to CHC every week and at the end of it all - remain thick skin/thick headed, unmoved, don't tith, and pose a lot of questions on their interpretations of the bible.patagonia:
[quote=\"csc\"]What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?
Prosperity preaching. You have to hear it to (dis)believe it.
... wonder what will happen to me? Kenna kick out?[/quote]The question is, what do you want to achieve? -
patagonia:
Thanks for the clip. First time hearing him preach and I wonder how people can sit through this if you know the Bible well enough.csc:
Listening now.. have not reached KH part yet .
My dear, if you are listening to 'Fleecing of Masses'.. move the clip to 39:30 and you'll hear his sermon right away. -
did it ever occur to you that there may be other talents in CHC? Why only Sun Ho is promoted? :scared:
http://sporehallofshame.blogspot.sg/2012/07/i-believe-in-crossover-but-it-has-been.html -
Annabel Soh is so sweet & pretty, younger & sing so well (click on her video) !
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