City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged
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WeiHan:
I heard donors (in terms of material/money donations) would have to remain anonymous, according to their 'standard'. Is that true?....
...Tzu Chi Foundation is definitely a good place. Was started by a Taiwanese Buddhist nun...see how high the standard they demand. -
csc:
csc ,The more I listen to KH, the angrier I become.
Ridiculous theory and total disregard for the Word of God.
:frustrated:
\"mai angry\" , \"mai angry\".....
everywhere got 'buaya de\" even
in religion which deals with the matter of the heart....
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Dreamaurora:
This kind of preacher is a walking time bomb. I felt very uneasy watching the clip; I don't think his spirit was right in attacking the other preachers.[/quote] :imsorry: Sorry ...as I am a non christian....so I do not know what is happening to all these pastors....good or bad....exposed or not....
ur video clip got me curious on who is dis guy.Way2GO:
[quote=\"dolphinsiah\"]
I found this Pastor that condemns the teaching of Prosperity Gospel....
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIdTFSIj8AI][/youtube]
Wish some good church pastors can be like him...challenge this Gospel.
I found out his name is Donnie Swaggart, son of Jimmy Swaggart.
I don't know DS, but JS I know some.
JS was a very popular tele-evangelist in US.
He was very gud at wat he does.
Was there in d US when his sex scandal broke.
He cried on TV begging for forgiveness.
He was in turn exposed AFTER his 'victim', another preacher he exposed retaliated in a sting ops as reported at dat time.
Fr d clip, it seems history is repeating itself
- attacking other preachers during sermons, n crying.
They r wat one wld call fire n brimstone preachers.
u sure u want one of these in SG churches?
You all know ...I am so 'mountain tortise' :snooze: I never even heard about CHC until YEar 2010 whe CHC was a highlighted in the media .....for being a Mega Church in Singapore. :roll: -
dolphinsiah:
dolphinsiah, you very sweet, :hi5:
:imsorry: Sorry ...as I am a non christian....so I do not know what is happening to all these pastors....good or bad....exposed or not....
You all know ...I am so 'mountain tortise' :snooze: I never even heard about CHC until YEar 2010 whe CHC was a highlighted in the media .....for being a Mega Church in Singapore. :roll:
go visit CHC, there are good people there too
and see for yourself first hand what it like
The world is super big, this is only the 'tip' of the iceberg.........
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Why it is not wise for CHC to challenge authority at this point
http://forum.channelnewsasia.com/showthread.php?119138-Why-it-is-not-wise-for-CHC-to-challebge-authority-at-this-point
http://therealsingapore.com/content/letter-ex-chc-christian-criticizes-church-not-following-biblical-principles -
phtthp:
Not sure if Ming Yi was really \"destroyed\" by the allegations. In 2010 after his prison sentence, he was reinstated as the abbot of the Foo Hai Chan Monastery and a grand dinner was thrown in a 5 star hotel to celebrate his 20 years of service.Why it is not wise for CHC to challenge authority at this point
http://forum.channelnewsasia.com/showthread.php?119138-Why-it-is-not-wise-for-CHC-to-challebge-authority-at-this-point
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20101202-250437.html -
pls do not be offended, just ignore if u disagree :xedfingers:
the motive - $$$
the target - the wanna believers, the need to believe, the kiasi, the pretentious, etc etc
the method - ........ what we see all around here and elsewhere, usually around subject on faith, miracles, security,need to belong, etc ( as in the vid below )
the players - convincing charismatic 'salesmen' who become multi millionaires
the common sign - give till it hurts, be generous, praise is empty without donating, etc etc
the allegations - scam, greed, con , tapping on human's need to believe ( religion or otherwise )
it exist all around the world, lambs are everywhere.....nuff said.
it's a long vid....but open yr eyes
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYjgeayfYPI][/youtube]
At the end of the day, it should be how you live your life, how you contribute physically to society and the community that counts, NOT how generous and how much you can contribute to THE 'organisation'. You cant buy your slot up there in afterlife, you have to EARN it. and no ONE individual can determine your route or destiny....... too many take the easy way - buy the slot in heaven ? and by installments ?
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dolphinsiah:
I take issue with this Swaggart fellow is because one should not use the pulpit to do personal attacks like that. My church's preachers has also repeatedly warned against this prosperity teaching in the sermons, but they never resorted to angry tirades against the preachers who preach those erroneous teachings. What this Swaggart fellow was doing was no better than the prosperity teachers themselves i.e. toying with people's emotions to bring his point across.
:imsorry: Sorry ...as I am a non christian....so I do not know what is happening to all these pastors....good or bad....exposed or not....
You all know ...I am so 'mountain tortise' :snooze: I never even heard about CHC until YEar 2010 whe CHC was a highlighted in the media .....for being a Mega Church in Singapore. :roll: -
a little cynicism may be useful, it is just a shade away from wisdom
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kiddo:
Yes, I agree too. The case is about how Kong Hee and gang has allegedly mishandled church funds, not prosecuting CHC nor Christianity. There are definitely many good people in CHC.
dolphinsiah, you very sweet, :hi5:dolphinsiah:
:imsorry: Sorry ...as I am a non christian....so I do not know what is happening to all these pastors....good or bad....exposed or not....
You all know ...I am so 'mountain tortise' :snooze: I never even heard about CHC until YEar 2010 whe CHC was a highlighted in the media .....for being a Mega Church in Singapore. :roll:
go visit CHC, there are good people there too
and see for yourself first hand what it like
The world is super big, this is only the 'tip' of the iceberg.........
:hugs: :snuggles:
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