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    Asia spending billions on tutors: study

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    • L Offline
      Lilac66
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      wonderm:
      Lilac66:

      [quote=\"limlim\"]casino is legitimate biz....


      so is enrichment/tuition..

      is casino social ill or luxury/leisure?

      is over reliance on enrichment/tuition a luxury or social ill?

      I agree a little regulation will do good. Just like beauty and slimming centres, they can make unrealistic claims and successes with their methods, but who knows if it's true. Same goes for tuition or GEP preparation centres that claim a high percentage scored A* or got through GEP after enrolling in their centres. The relevant authorities should ensure these centres back up their claims with statistics .
      If parents don't get \"swindled\" by alot of such claims , maybe they'll not jump on the bandwagon that tuition is the cure-all for all the academic woes.

      I thought we have seen enough advertisements to know they are just advertisements. Are there many who get \"swindled\" by such claims? Do we expect less stress over the need or perceived need for our kids to \"excel in their studies\" even if such ads are completely banned?

      I have no issue with requiring them to back up their claims with statistics. But just wonder why only tuition centres then? should we require similar \"justification\" from those advertising other products? e.g. are those perfect skins of beautiful models really due to the use of such such lotions?

      Again, I am not against regulation or even complete ban of such ads because I never really believe them or be overly influenced by them.[/quote]
      Understand your perspective. Well, we're not in their shoes, we would not know their feelings of searching for a hope. Esp for people who're desperately seeking solutions for their problems (whether skin,baldness or slimming). Having said that, it's just an example of how the watchdog should ensure there's no unjustifiable and unbelievable claims.

      Tuition is something close to so many parents hearts. Not all parents will tighten the belts for some beauty package but they'll do it for the children's education. That's why those premium pre-schools command such high fees but yet still have a long waiting list. And mind you, not all are well-off. Even just normal tuition for a kid run into the hundreds, if not thousands every month for established centres.

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        3Boys
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        limlim:
        They should not be affected by the super kiasuparents.. even if 50% of the class got tuition and already knew the topic, the teachers should still follow the course content and teach the whole topic and not ask the weaker students to seek tuition.

        Alright, that's fair comment.

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          Busymom
          last edited by

          Reading some posts here, a word comes to my mind : nanny state.


          LOL.

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            Lilac66
            last edited by

            limlim:
            3Boys:



            Yes, I find that whole attitude to be repulsive. What does one really expect the MOE to do? Its really no-win.


            Next, Tuition/enrichment should be regulated. A database should be setup, to track the % of students from each school who are attending additional enrichment classes or tuition at registered centers.

            The % could be a KPI for the teachers or principals.



            Good point. That'll be a good start.

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              wonderm
              last edited by

              limlim:
              3Boys:



              Yes, I find that whole attitude to be repulsive. What does one really expect the MOE to do? Its really no-win.

              If a particular school have a very small % of students attending enrichment/tuition classes, and yet can perform well, the school/teachers should be duly praised and rewarded.

              Such practice does not take into account family background of the students. How about a student with both parents working, vs one with SAHM and especially if the SAHM can teach well? Would this practice encourages schools to pick students from certain family background, further disadvantage those who need the good teachers more?

              Devils are in the details!

              By the way, when I was giving tuition many years ago, the students were mostly from top schools. These schools are still the top schools today. I suppose parents still see values in these schools, despite that the students there \"needed\" tuition more than other neighbourhood schools.

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                doodbug
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                Lilac66:
                limlim:

                [quote=\"3Boys\"]

                Yes, I find that whole attitude to be repulsive. What does one really expect the MOE to do? Its really no-win.


                Next, Tuition/enrichment should be regulated. A database should be setup, to track the % of students from each school who are attending additional enrichment classes or tuition at registered centers.

                The % could be a KPI for the teachers or principals.



                Good point. That'll be a good start.[/quote]I agree. Currently, I suspect MOE may not actually have a good grasp or a sensing of how prevalent tuition is (or the demographic of kids going for tuition), just as I do not think they have a good sense of the number of teachers who are moonlighting. More data is a positive start that has potential to yield insights.

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                  concern2
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                  Asia spending billions on tutors...that's why their economy isn't collapsing yet? :siam:

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                    jtoh
                    last edited by

                    Busymom:
                    Reading some posts here, a word comes to my mind : nanny state.


                    LOL.
                    Haha! Yes. Was thinking the same.

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                      Lilac66
                      last edited by

                      wonderm:
                      limlim:

                      [quote=\"3Boys\"]

                      Yes, I find that whole attitude to be repulsive. What does one really expect the MOE to do? Its really no-win.

                      If a particular school have a very small % of students attending enrichment/tuition classes, and yet can perform well, the school/teachers should be duly praised and rewarded.

                      Such practice does not take into account family background of the students. How about a student with both parents working, vs one with SAHM and especially if the SAHM can teach well? Would this practice encourages schools to pick students from certain family background, further disadvantage those who need the good teachers more?
                      [/quote]
                      You have a valid pt there about SAHM. My DS is coached by me and in a sense I think he's faring ok because of that even w/o tuition. But I don't think schools will be able to pick students la, going by the present system. šŸ˜„

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                        Lilac66
                        last edited by

                        jtoh:
                        Busymom:

                        Reading some posts here, a word comes to my mind : nanny state.


                        LOL.

                        Haha! Yes. Was thinking the same.


                        Just trying to live up to our reputation. šŸ˜‰

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