Asia spending billions on tutors: study

[Busymom]

limlim:

I just talk about ways that could improve the quality of education offered by MOE, and also measures to reduce the negative effects of excessive unnecessary tuition.

No one engages the points directly, or challenge the harm of regulating the industry, but at best come up with terms like \"nanny state\".

Sure, if SG is not a nanny state, why set up CRA?

There were. Maybe you didn't see the comments.

First, your suggestion about linking the no. of students who go for enrichment/tuition to the school principal/teachers' KPI. Someone posted the comment that this would not capture the whole picture as there will always be those who have stay-at-home parents/grandparents to help coach or enrich the child. That is a valid point. If this is to be linked to KPI, it has to be fair measure and capture the whole picture, not just a segment of it. If I am a teacher and my KPI is linked to such a criteria, an unfair one in my view (since even if I teach the kids passionately and properly, I can't stop parents who may still want to send their children for more enrichment), I probably wouldn't want to make teaching a career to begin with.

Second, your suggestion that MOE should not allow its teachers to moonlight. While I agree that too much moonlighting may interfere with one's duties in school, isn't there already some restriction imposed by MOE on this as posted by someone earlier (Jedamum I think), like not exceeding a certain no. of hours per week? So is your position one of (i) the restriction is too lax; (ii) there is evidence teachers are flouting the restriction; or (iii) there shouldn't be any moonlighting by school teachers, period? If your position is (iii), what right does MOE have to tell its teachers that they are not suppose to moonlight? It is one's livelihood afterall.

Third, your suggestion about regulating advertisements by the tuition/enrichment centres. That to me should be caveat emptor. Not that it is not good for us consumers for advertisements to be regulated, etc., but have you thought of the consequence of this? This so-called protection for the sonsumer has to be extended to what else and stop at where? Being a nanny state in some aspects does not mean that people ought to be protected to the extreme for everything. Your comparing tuition to gambling is totally off balance, to be blunt about it. One has obvious consequence to the society, the other...? I am still scratching my head and you never reply to that question except for two words, nanny state. Why don't you try to answer this question for once?

[Busymom]

I don’t disagree that there may be areas for MOE to improve on, and maybe indeed the KPIs set for schools and teachers are causing too much wayang that has affeceted teaching, but to move the focus from that to regulating the tuition sector, or banning it, or stopping teachers from moonlighting, is just not the right approach in my mind.


There are many other better ways. And I agree with another forummer who said that MOE should look into making kindergarten education a compulsory one. That is levelling up those might otherwise have been disadvantaged.

[3Boys]

Busymom:

Your comparing tuition to gambling is totally off balance, to be blunt about it. One has obvious consequence to the society, the other...? I am still scratching my head and you never reply to that question except for two words, nanny state. Why don't you try to answer this question for once?

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[mumzmummy]

there’s always a reason behind giving our child tuition. but i personally won’t stress my children with so many tuition classes because it will have negative effects

[Busymom]

Busymom:

Your comparing tuition to gambling is totally off balance, to be blunt about it. One has obvious consequence to the society, the other...? I am still scratching my head and you never reply to that question except for two words, nanny state. Why don't you try to answer this question for once?

And what about this, if the restrictions etc. are to be removed for the casinos, then how about removing capital punishment for serious crimes as well?

But obviously not, right, as it is absurb to try to link the two.

[autumnbronze]

Busymom:

I don't disagree that there may be areas for MOE to improve on, and maybe indeed the KPIs set for schools and teachers are causing too much wayang that has affeceted teaching, but to move the focus from that to regulating the tuition sector, or banning it, or stopping teachers from moonlighting, is just not the right approach in my mind.


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[limlim]

autumnbronze:

But then again not ALL teachers don't don't teach. Not ALL of MOE's directives are flawed. Not ALL teachers who moonlight neglect their kids or teaching responsibilities in school. This last statement is the most baffling of all. Why would they want to overturn their main rice bowl?? That is just a huge risk to take wrt to their career. The civil service doesn't take too kindly to employees who adopt such laissez faire approach.

I will qualify though, that there are bad apples in EVERY profession. Not just restricted to the teaching fraternity.

Sadly, the above mentioned assumptions are consistently being pandered generally.

Yes, there are good apples too.

But, there is always room for improvement to raise the overall/general quality, isn't it?

I give an example to illustrate my point, not as comparison.

Not everyone litter after eating in MRT. But, there is a blanket ban that eating is not allowed in MRT. This policy deters those who may eat and litter the train, and also those who eat but will NOT litter the trains.

A good policy, will help to ensure cleanliness of the train for the comfort of all passengers.. isn't it?

But this policy restricted the freedom of the passengers to eat. quite inhumane, sometimes.. maybe?

[verykiasu2010]

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[limlim]

dunnoleh:

3Boys:

[quote=\"autumnbronze\"].


Sadly, the above mentioned assumptions are consistently being pandered generally.

:goodpost: :goodpost:

All the myth circulating, posing as truth.

what myth?[/quote]Bcoz they never encountered it, so they dismiss it as myth, and other parent's experience are like lies to them maybe..

[limlim]

3Boys:

limlim:

[quote=\"Busymom\"]

How can gambling and going for tuition be compared on the same basis? :?

One can become an addiction and potentially break up a family, the other... :scratchhead:

2 words, nanny state.

What on earth are you talking about? :?[/quote]State intervention for the best interest of the general community.

Say, there is a problem.. the factors are A, B, C, D, E.

Just becoz \"B\" is not within the control, so, the govt shd sit back and do nothing to tackle A, C, D ,E which is within their control? what a irresponsible attitude.

They shd do all they can, including looking at A, C, D, E and try to contain the problem before there are dire consequences.

of coz, what type of consequences is subjected to individual's differing views and experiences.

Some see a problem, others don't see it. You are free to voice your views and opinions, so do others.