What I hate about the current Singapore
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Do not discount what you have done to help others. If everyone just do that little bit for someone in need. The world will be a much better place. Some people have the means to embark on bigger scale charity work others cannot. Little by little, bit by bit, you can still make a difference. It may not be on a national scale but to those whom you have reached out to help, it means the world to them.
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Strparent:
There is no class warfare here, we are ALL interested in helping the old couple. Its not empathy versus economics at ALL, its ALL empathy, that's where I am coming from. I'm just saying, please don't go messing with a mechanism that is meant to serve one particular purpose, and doing it ok for most people, just because of a special situation, when there are better ways of dealing with the situation.
And I dont agree fully on your view for me, I personally feel I do not do enough, in fact most of us do not. I understand what 3Boys is saying, and I agree with him on the economic sense, but I prefer that all look at it from the empathy sense. We are all the same - Singaporeans, just that we have different lifestyles and born with different spoons.
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That stupid video and write up manipulated the CPF question into the issue when its got nothing to do with CPF, but everything to do with providing a poor elderly couple assistance with their health care needs.
The health care cost situation is not going away, its going to get worse and worse as our population ages, and even rich countries are feeling the pain now. Lets not do one-off quick fix and regret it for the majority of people 20 years from now.
Again, the people who will suffer from sloppy, knee-jerk policy making will be the lao bai xin, the 'elites' don't depend on Medisave or CPF for healthcare or retirement. Is liberalising CPF the answer? Maybe, but lets think about it a little bit before we go hell for leather and DEMAND that it be changed, on limited understanding of effectiveness or impact. -
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
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Strparent:
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
Hey Strparent!!! I am not reading the entire thread but I like what I read from yours. Not only you are proud, I am proud of your children as a fellow Singaporean too. Kudos to them, tell them auntie very proud of them as well and kudos to their parents.
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Strparent:
Thank you, keep up the good work. Having compassion for your fellow man is incredibly important, and I'm glad you are imbuing your children with those values. I try and do my little bit, but wish too that I am doing more.3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute: -
Strparent:
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
Hi Strparent,
it's a very inspriring post, what you did in your own capacity to at least make a small (or maybe a it's big one to the family) difference to the lives of these needy elderly :udawoman: or :udaman: .
IThis will serve as an example for my kid, to see how he can start to learn to contribute in one way or another.
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There is a similar facet of a similar issue pointing out in the last few pages.
More and more elders have been send to homes in Johor due to high cost of running such homes in Singapore. It is almost like exporting the unproductive population out of Singapore even though they maybe citizens. But foreigners who are either still productive or rich can have a place in this island.
Is this all life is about? Survival of fittest and weeding out of the weaks…the gov will just keep replacing the population with richest from the top and the corresponding poorest at the bottom replaced. there is a term for this …social evolution? -
WeiHan:
So, who is doing the shipping......There is a similar facet of a similar issue pointing out in the last few page.
More and more elders have been send to homes in Johor due to high cost of running such home in Singapore. It is almost like exporting the unproductive population out of Singapore even though they maybe citizen. But foreigners who are either still productive or rich can have a place in this island.
Is this all life is all about? Survival of fittest and weeding out of the weaks...the gov will just keep replacing the population with richest from the top and the corresponding poorest at the bottom replaced. there is a term for this ...social evolution?
And if they enjoy better facilities and care there in JB, you would prefer they suffer poorer conditions here?
When I retire, I think JB would suit me just fine.
As usual, taken one issue and tried to make it another. -
3Boys:
The Singapore government is very good at telling people that the system is such that it has to be this way...\"is not our fault!\", \"is the global trend\". But who chose and perfect the system to its pinnacle...
So, who is doing the shipping...... -
I just learn something new.
Remember that the gov imposes an extra stamp duty to foreigners that buy a property in Singapore? is suppose to cool down the property market.
But no! Since, we have signed free-trade agreements with many countries (China, India, USA, Canada, Great Britain etc…), these foreigners can buy local properties and pay stamp duty rate as if they are citizens.
No wonder, the new policies didn’t have much impact.
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