What I hate about the current Singapore
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I think it’s possible to use medisave for some cosmetic procedures, not to pay for the full treatment, but part of the treatment. Like if you go to hospital for say nose or jaw surgery, some of the expense of staying in hospital can be claimed from medisave. If the govt allows medisave to be used for any medical treatment, than some may unwisely "squander" their medisave on unnecessary cosmetic procedures.
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Sun_2010:
Sun2010,
But what pisses me is the article.
Someone walked with the Lims from the poly along the path, watched them pant and struggle for one whole hour , so that he could eloquently write \"forcing the doddering couple in the perilous walk home\", so that he could get their story.
Now what does that say about that slimy b******???
And he talks about how we can avoid such cases in future.
Emotionalizing an issue shows the true intent. When there is such a geniunine case why is there even a need to do this?
Like TV marketing -
See the problem?
Voila we have the perfect solution - yada yada yada... :roll:
I am sick and tired of this dressing up figures, marketing precisely what you want people to see, squeezing the public emphathy factor dry.
Lets just leave that to the multinationals and media and the entertainment industry, shall we?
Nauseating , really! :mad:
I agree fully about yr comments. This article was designed to create an anti-PAP agenda, my personal opinion. My first thought also same, why did the video guy make the couple walk all over the same 1km ( or thereabouts ) just to drive their point through ? I agree SDP need to re-think their strategy. IT would be so much better for them to go all out in force to help the needy to their best of their abilities, and if they want to highlight their 'actions' so be it.
But as I indicated, my main focus was not about the article, nor the writer, but the real situation that is deepening in our housing estates all over, at least from what I can see.
And I dont agree fully on your view for me, I personally feel I do not do enough, in fact most of us do not. I understand what 3Boys is saying, and I agree with him on the economic sense, but I prefer that all look at it from the empathy sense. We are all the same - Singaporeans, just that we have different lifestyles and born with different spoons.
I love the recent series on http://video.xin.msn.com/watch/video/episode-1/1gq2t3yo9, one lady Ms Yvonne Goh even gave up her mini tai-tai lifestyle to dedicate to help the needy all around Singapore - I try to make my kids watch each episode.
Kudos to these real heroes and heroines. :salute:
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Do not discount what you have done to help others. If everyone just do that little bit for someone in need. The world will be a much better place. Some people have the means to embark on bigger scale charity work others cannot. Little by little, bit by bit, you can still make a difference. It may not be on a national scale but to those whom you have reached out to help, it means the world to them.
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Strparent:
There is no class warfare here, we are ALL interested in helping the old couple. Its not empathy versus economics at ALL, its ALL empathy, that's where I am coming from. I'm just saying, please don't go messing with a mechanism that is meant to serve one particular purpose, and doing it ok for most people, just because of a special situation, when there are better ways of dealing with the situation.
And I dont agree fully on your view for me, I personally feel I do not do enough, in fact most of us do not. I understand what 3Boys is saying, and I agree with him on the economic sense, but I prefer that all look at it from the empathy sense. We are all the same - Singaporeans, just that we have different lifestyles and born with different spoons.
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That stupid video and write up manipulated the CPF question into the issue when its got nothing to do with CPF, but everything to do with providing a poor elderly couple assistance with their health care needs.
The health care cost situation is not going away, its going to get worse and worse as our population ages, and even rich countries are feeling the pain now. Lets not do one-off quick fix and regret it for the majority of people 20 years from now.
Again, the people who will suffer from sloppy, knee-jerk policy making will be the lao bai xin, the 'elites' don't depend on Medisave or CPF for healthcare or retirement. Is liberalising CPF the answer? Maybe, but lets think about it a little bit before we go hell for leather and DEMAND that it be changed, on limited understanding of effectiveness or impact. -
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
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Strparent:
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
Hey Strparent!!! I am not reading the entire thread but I like what I read from yours. Not only you are proud, I am proud of your children as a fellow Singaporean too. Kudos to them, tell them auntie very proud of them as well and kudos to their parents.
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Strparent:
Thank you, keep up the good work. Having compassion for your fellow man is incredibly important, and I'm glad you are imbuing your children with those values. I try and do my little bit, but wish too that I am doing more.3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute: -
Strparent:
3Boys
I hear you and understand what u are driving at, bro. Thank u for yr stand. :salute:
I still think we need our politicians to be more people oriented, more caring, more down to earth, more getting to the ground to meet and understand the citizens. I talked to my ex-MP in length sometimes in the past, and my neighbours say that I risk talking too direct, but she was understanding and actually tried to implement some assistance and events. The existing MP...... i can only shake my head.
That is why I have always been an admirer to JB Jeyaretnam, Chiam See Tong and now CSM, LTK, SL, etc because I can see and can feel their true patriotic love for the country, and not just for political power or career. Of course, there are quite a few good people in PAP as well, thats how Singapore can be what it is now, but there has been also several callous ignorant uncaring MPs. :stupid:
The other day, a visiting relative commented that why we were so desperate, to keep 2 bags of empty drink cans. Why ? Because my DS and DD decided to collect them, to pass to an elderly lady at a nearby coffeeshop who collects them from tables. She refuses monetary handouts, but she take the occassional chai png meal with us. As I said, it is all a very small and simple gesture, but I am proud of my kids.
Hi Strparent,
it's a very inspriring post, what you did in your own capacity to at least make a small (or maybe a it's big one to the family) difference to the lives of these needy elderly :udawoman: or :udaman: .
IThis will serve as an example for my kid, to see how he can start to learn to contribute in one way or another.
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There is a similar facet of a similar issue pointing out in the last few pages.
More and more elders have been send to homes in Johor due to high cost of running such homes in Singapore. It is almost like exporting the unproductive population out of Singapore even though they maybe citizens. But foreigners who are either still productive or rich can have a place in this island.
Is this all life is about? Survival of fittest and weeding out of the weaks…the gov will just keep replacing the population with richest from the top and the corresponding poorest at the bottom replaced. there is a term for this …social evolution? -
WeiHan:
So, who is doing the shipping......There is a similar facet of a similar issue pointing out in the last few page.
More and more elders have been send to homes in Johor due to high cost of running such home in Singapore. It is almost like exporting the unproductive population out of Singapore even though they maybe citizen. But foreigners who are either still productive or rich can have a place in this island.
Is this all life is all about? Survival of fittest and weeding out of the weaks...the gov will just keep replacing the population with richest from the top and the corresponding poorest at the bottom replaced. there is a term for this ...social evolution?
And if they enjoy better facilities and care there in JB, you would prefer they suffer poorer conditions here?
When I retire, I think JB would suit me just fine.
As usual, taken one issue and tried to make it another.
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