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    6 months' paid leave for mum?

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    • P Offline
      pinky
      last edited by

      this is a comparison of paid maternity leave for different countries:

      sweden: 16 mths
      denmark: 13 mths (2 wks for husband)
      norway: about 11 mths (3 mths for husband)
      finland: about 9 mths (5 mths to be shared with husband)
      singapore: 4 mths
      japan: 3.5 mths
      US: 3 mths (no salary)
      china: about 3 mths
      HK: 2.5 mths
      malaysia: not less than 2 mths
      korea: 2 mths
      taiwan: 2 mths

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        NewKSmum
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        If the government were to extend this 6-months' paid leave new benefit to married female employee who will be conceiving in the near future may jeopardise their job security as it is too long for a company to await for her return if no other office staff could help up, it becomes an additional operating cost for company to hire a temp staff to cover her duties. Rationally if the temp staff's performance within this 6 months is acceptable by the company, do you think the boss of the company may consider to retain and extend the contract with the temp staff and kick out the female who is on maternity leave with some sorts of compensation ? Nothing is guaranteed :moneyflies:


        Presently, 4 months are considered long for some companies and now if going for 6 months .... really cannot imaging what will be the career future for pregnant staff or newly-wed female job seekers ?!

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          Oppsgal
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          NewKSmum:
          If the government were to extend this 6-months' paid leave new benefit to married female employee who will be conceiving in the near future may jeopardise their job security as it is too long for a company to await for her return if no other office staff could help up, it becomes an additional operating cost for company to hire a temp staff to cover her duties. Rationally if the temp staff's performance within this 6 months is acceptable by the company, do you think the boss of the company may consider to retain and extend the contract with the temp staff and kick out the female who is on maternity leave with some sorts of compensation ? Nothing is guaranteed :moneyflies:


          Presently, 4 months are considered long for some companies and now if going for 6 months .... really cannot imaging what will be the career future for pregnant staff or newly-wed female job seekers ?!
          I think those having one kid might be affected too during finding job? 🤷 Hopefully, not extend...

          Find that is not helping at all.

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            BeContented
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            NewKSmum:
            If the government were to extend this 6-months' paid leave new benefit to married female employee who will be conceiving in the near future may jeopardise their job security as it is too long for a company to await for her return if no other office staff could help up, it becomes an additional operating cost for company to hire a temp staff to cover her duties. Rationally if the temp staff's performance within this 6 months is acceptable by the company, do you think the boss of the company may consider to retain and extend the contract with the temp staff and kick out the female who is on maternity leave with some sorts of compensation ? Nothing is guaranteed :moneyflies:


            Presently, 4 months are considered long for some companies and now if going for 6 months .... really cannot imaging what will be the career future for pregnant staff or newly-wed female job seekers ?!

            Think it's definitely too long and will affect mothers planning to return to work.
            During my time, maternity was only 2 months. During the pregnancy period, I had a 1week hospital leave, took 2 months maternity leave and extend another 2 weeks after delivery. So total was 2 and 3/4 months.
            My annual appraisal that year was downgraded....my supervisor secretly disclosed that the new management said it was due to my pregnancy.....I was away for ~3 months within a year.

            6 months would mean that you are not contributing to the company for at least half a year....does not make economic sense at company standpoint.

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              sleepy
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              Oppsgal:
              I think those having one kid might be affected too during finding job? 🤷 Hopefully, not extend...


              Find that is not helping at all.
              Skali this create a new trend: the most 吃香 job seekers are women in 40s with grown up kids. Low probability to give birth again & go on maternity :evil:

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                sleepy
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                Lynn2010:
                Hi sleepy, just to sidetrack a little - did you study in Australia?

                Yes. Eh, got tell tale signs? 😂

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                  concern2
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                  Oppsgal:
                  Daddy 😧

                  http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1215454/1/.html

                  [quote]SNEF against extending maternity leave, proposes other incentives...
                  The Singapore National Employers Federation (SNEF) said legislating more and different types of leave will add to labour costs and have other unintended negative effects.... feels the current four months leave is already generous, compared to regional countries and economic competitors.
                  One suggestion is to have \"baby bonus for bosses\", where tax incentives are given to employers, whose employees go on maternity leave....

                  Haha... The bosses kbkp Liao....
                  WTH is \"baby bonus for bosses\"?.... :faint:

                  \"tax incentives\" money comes from where?[/quote]Left pocket to right pocket - some departments like Nparks have excess.. :siam:

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                    concern2
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                    Namie:
                    concern2:

                    [quote=\"Namie\"]When I saw this proposal, my heart sank. My partner at work is due to deliver at year end and already my boss told me I am not allowed to take leave or MC during the time she is on maternity leave and until she is back. She is taking the whole 4 months + her annual leave + a few more days no pay leave. I have to cover all her work. Both of us work till 8-9pm every day so I might as well sleep in office during the time she is away. My boxes told me I can get a sleeping bag to catch up sleep during lunch. Now 6 mths!


                    Work-life for pregnant women. What about other co-workers?

                    We are working in a major government agency.

                    :goodpost: , Namie! I know of many relatives who also work in govt service, and even there, the companies do not have work-from-home arrangements, and worse, they DISCOURAGE THE WOMEN from giving birth!!!!!!

                    You'd get asked, \"When are you getting married\", followed by \"When do you plan to have children\". followed by \"When are you planning to have another child?\"

                    Yet, I empathize with the employers. Something else has to be done, like making work-from-home possible, shorter shifts perhaps, part-time work, in short, being more flexible. HRs, think of something leh...you're not paid so much for nothing leh... :siam:

                    You may be amazed. I am in HR - Work-Life unit.[/quote] :rotflmao: :rotflmao: AMAZED would be an understatement. Can't something be worked out?

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                      Oppsgal
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                      sleepy:
                      Oppsgal:

                      I think those having one kid might be affected too during finding job? 🤷 Hopefully, not extend...


                      Find that is not helping at all.

                      Skali this create a new trend: the most 吃香 job seekers are women in 40s with grown up kids. Low probability to give birth again & go on maternity :evil:

                      http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38490
                      Read Point 5?

                      Think will need some luck to be \"吃香\" when over that age?

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                        NewKSmum
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                        As a HR personnel myself, generally such ‘good’ benefit is not going to work for both the employer and female employee. I suppose our government should come up with something which is more on long-term basis such as heavier subsidy on caregiver or monetary support on the staff concerned than affecting the employer’s business operation. The impact of which will not be that great.

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