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    City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

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      verykiasu2010
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      Angelight:
      KH maintained his integrity - again - to the media after his recent court appearance. His quote: \"I'm confident I will be vindicated.\" made me feel a little puzzled - either he is really not guilty as charged, or he really believes he can get away with it.

      the trial has not started, how do you know is guilty as charged ?

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        phtthp
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        Angelight:
        KH maintained his integrity



        http://c3churchwatch.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/how-can-kong-hee-say-i-do-maintain-my-integrity-part-2/
        Angelight:
        Pleading not guilty and engaging SCs to fight the case...these people really have alot of money to burn! Imagine this exorbitant sum could be used to aid thousands of needy families in spore.
        kwcllf:
        Straits Times reported that Senior Councils charge between $1,000-1,300 per hour and legal fees may exceed $1million each for the accused.
        News report:
        City Harvest legal costs set to skyrocket

        http://news.insing.com/tabloid/city-harvest-legal-costs-set-to-be-in-the-millions/id-c1593f00

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          rains
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          verykiasu2010:
          Angelight:

          KH maintained his integrity - again - to the media after his recent court appearance. His quote: \"I'm confident I will be vindicated.\" made me feel a little puzzled - either he is really not guilty as charged, or he really believes he can get away with it.


          the trial has not started, how do you know is guilty as charged ?

          The fact is: he is charged - 3 charges are brought against him. The trial is for him/them to defend himself/themselves. At this point, they are guilty until proven innocent.

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            Daddy D
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            slmkhoo:
            rains:

            The fact is: he is charged - 3 charges are brought against him. The trial is for him/them to defend himself/themselves. At this point, they are guilty until proven innocent.


            I'm no supporter of the people involved, but just to point out that our legal system, based on western systems, assumes innocence until guilt is proved.

            Agree... Dun anyhow 'Dom Ba Leh\"... :siam:

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              Dreamaurora
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              Personally, I don’t think Kong Hee and the gang will escape unscathed from this ordeal. ACG does not commence this kind of high-profile case frivolously and complete acquittal may also mean intense public backlash.


              What I think may happen is the charges brought forward may be reduced to a minimal. As our ‘I thought I hit a tree branch’ SPH lady and Wolvie had demonstrated, good lawyers know how to exploit the technicalities of our legal system.

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                verykiasu2010
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                rains:
                verykiasu2010:

                [quote=\"Angelight\"]KH maintained his integrity - again - to the media after his recent court appearance. His quote: \"I'm confident I will be vindicated.\" made me feel a little puzzled - either he is really not guilty as charged, or he really believes he can get away with it.


                the trial has not started, how do you know is guilty as charged ?

                The fact is: he is charged - 3 charges are brought against him. The trial is for him/them to defend himself/themselves. At this point, they are guilty until proven innocent.[/quote]that is a warped sense of \"gutter justice\"

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                  verykiasu2010
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                  Dreamaurora:
                  Personally, I don't think Kong Hee and the gang will escape unscathed from this ordeal. ACG does not commence this kind of high-profile case frivolously and complete acquittal may also mean intense public backlash.


                  What I think may happen is the charges brought forward may be reduced to a minimal. As our 'I thought I hit a tree branch' SPH lady and Wolvie had demonstrated, good lawyers know how to exploit the technicalities of our legal system.
                  agree with the first para

                  anything touching on religion is highly sensitive and in this internet age, it is not to be embarked upon frivolously

                  possibly the outcome could be poor judgement and poor internal control and act of negligence wrt to regulations under Charity Act

                  the court cannot decide and impose rules on use of funds between the church and members, it is a private matter and the state does not interfere in church (religious) affairs unless it pertains to national security / treason etc (any one feel free to argue otherwise)

                  whatever the outcome, the name of Christianity has been tarnished

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                    kwcllf
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                    verykiasu2010:
                    Angelight:

                    KH maintained his integrity - again - to the media after his recent court appearance. His quote: \"I'm confident I will be vindicated.\" made me feel a little puzzled - either he is really not guilty as charged, or he really believes he can get away with it.


                    the trial has not started, how do you know is guilty as charged ?

                    Even if KH and gang escaped unscathed, many of CHC's doctrine have been exposed. The prosprity gospel they preached and KH asked people to \"empty out all you have\" - they have opened up the eyes of the public at large. Even KH qualification on theology from an unaccredited institution says much about his \"integrity\".

                    Except for brainwashed people, such facts are enough to warn people to keep away from them.

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                      Way2GO
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                      verykiasu2010:


                      possibly the outcome could be poor judgement and poor internal control and act of negligence wrt to regulations under Charity Act
                      Poor judgement n poor internal controls arguable, but unlikely court will buy act of negligence
                      when d evidences show roundtripping n deliberate falsifying of accounts to hide movement of funds overseas.

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                        Way2GO
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                        slmkhoo:
                        rains:

                        The fact is: he is charged - 3 charges are brought against him. The trial is for him/them to defend himself/themselves. At this point, they are guilty until proven innocent.


                        I'm no supporter of the people involved, but just to point out that our legal system, based on western systems, assumes innocence until guilt is proved.

                        There is such a thing known as strict liability in law.
                        d accused is legally liable for his act regardless of culpability.
                        Look up SC Harpreet Singh's argument on behalf of Howard Shaw in d underaged prostitution case.

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