2012 PSLE Discussions and Strategy

[Funz]

SAHM_TAN:

jedamum:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]

For CL, my son's conversation topic was on community work...something like 你有做过益公吗？As for EL, pic was on MRT and conversation was the advantages of traveling on MRT.

:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

Can answer never done before right? Then go about saying why didn't and why think it will be good to do community work. The teacher will not penalise if never do community work but want to assess how kids carry on the conversation within the topic. Am I correct?[/quote]Stumble onto this thread out of curiosity since. But seeing the topic got me :yikes:

Can say never do before. Then say where go time to volunteer, school work oredi so much, exam standard so out of this world, gotta go this and that tuition, even if I want to do volunteer work and have the heart to do it, cannot find the time. I find time to help others, who's going to help me when I fail my exam? So focus on passing exam first, next time when grow up oredi, earn enuf oredi, sick of seeing my bosses black face then I go do charity.

Goodness, this kind of topics will stump the kids. How to relate?

[alng]

jedamum:

:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

I think most schools would have exposed their P6 students to CIP. It can be a small thing such as collecting old newspapers to raise funds to big ticket item such as service learning trip.

[SAHM_TAN]

jedamum:

SAHM_TAN:

[quote=\"jedamum\"]
:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

Can answer never done before right? Then go about saying why didn't and why think it will be good to do community work. The teacher will not penalise if never do community work but want to assess how kids carry on the conversation within the topic. Am I correct?

not sure about what psle marker wants, but my P4's CL teacher said if have not been to certain places or no experience of what the topic is about, the student have to cook up some story and tell the tester..... :scratchhead:
dont oral have within or out of point marks? eg if ask about what u did during holidays, then a one liner stuff like i engage in my hobby and went on to talk about one's hobby, wont it be out of point?[/quote]I wonder if SEAB will entertain my qn if I asked them about this, student has never experienced the activities asked in the topic, is it ok if they replied no and explained why but still able to talk about the topic within context.

Well for the holiday topic，if the child only engages in that particular hobby, then I guess need to explain why during the hols only have that one particular activity, maybe parents disallow, etc, I wonder how wide a scope is the child allow to explore. Maybe it's safer to just ask the child to memorise a wide range of topics. Not every child would have opportunities to experience all the activities that could be used as conversation topics. It very much depend on what is the assessment rubics. Do the schools provide such information to P6 parents?

[jedamum]

alng:

jedamum:

:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

I think most schools would have exposed their P6 students to CIP. It can be a small thing such as collecting old newspapers to raise funds to big ticket item such as service learning trip.

thanks alng!
it is so important to get kids to reflect what they have done over the whole year in school. some times my kid will just do, and then 'yeah' and forget about it. when come across such topics, they have to think on their feet and link back to what they have experienced.

eg, my boy had an oral topic of talking about an incident where he have render help to someone. he was dumbfolded and said he had nothing to talk about. after reminded that he had helped so and so about what and what before, he said \"oh that one ah...consider as helping someone meh? i thought that is expected of oneself as a classmate.\"

[mummy so kiasu]

jedamum:

janet_lee88:

For CL, my son's conversation topic was on community work...something like 你有做过益公吗？As for EL, pic was on MRT and conversation was the advantages of traveling on MRT.

:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

I thought schools usually bring students to old folks' home to entertain the old folks & will ask their parents to donate food for them to bring along? If really no such experience, then talk about other people's experience. Worse come to worse, have to use your own imagination.

[alng]

jedamum:

thanks alng!

it is so important to get kids to reflect what they have done over the whole year in school. some times my kid will just do, and then 'yeah' and forget about it. when come across such topics, they have to think on their feet and link back to what they have experienced.

eg, my boy had an oral topic of talking about an incident where he have render help to someone. he was dumbfolded and said he had nothing to talk about. after reminded that he had helped so and so about what and what before, he said \"oh that one ah...consider as helping someone meh? i thought that is expected of oneself as a classmate.\"

Yes, but not just in school but also at home and in daily life. My dd's teacher asked the class to do a mind-map of themselves. Starting from self in the center, then extend to family/home, schools (internal and external such as outing), daily life events (supermarket, clinic, public transport, food court, etc).

[mummy so kiasu]

alng:

jedamum:

thanks alng!

it is so important to get kids to reflect what they have done over the whole year in school. some times my kid will just do, and then 'yeah' and forget about it. when come across such topics, they have to think on their feet and link back to what they have experienced.

eg, my boy had an oral topic of talking about an incident where he have render help to someone. he was dumbfolded and said he had nothing to talk about. after reminded that he had helped so and so about what and what before, he said \"oh that one ah...consider as helping someone meh? i thought that is expected of oneself as a classmate.\"

Yes, but not just in school but also at home and in daily life. My dd's teacher asked the class to do a mind-map of themselves. Starting from self
in the center, then extend to family/home, schools (internal and external such as outing), daily life events (supermarket, clinic, public transport, food court, etc).

Wow.. That sounds interesting. Might ask my boy to try out if he has the time.

[HAPPYH]

alng:

jedamum:

thanks alng!

it is so important to get kids to reflect what they have done over the whole year in school. some times my kid will just do, and then 'yeah' and forget about it. when come across such topics, they have to think on their feet and link back to what they have experienced.

eg, my boy had an oral topic of talking about an incident where he have render help to someone. he was dumbfolded and said he had nothing to talk about. after reminded that he had helped so and so about what and what before, he said \"oh that one ah...consider as helping someone meh? i thought that is expected of oneself as a classmate.\"

Yes, but not just in school but also at home and in daily life. My dd's teacher asked the class to do a mind-map of themselves. Starting from self in the center, then extend to family/home, schools (internal and external such as outing), daily life events (supermarket, clinic, public transport, food court, etc).

Yes you are right. I must explore this as well since my DD can not quickly remember things and she also wont skip few sentences if she thinks she should say something there. Wait wait wait think think think.She will happily take her own time. Head ache. I find it difficult to make use of the available time at home among various things.

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mummy so kiasu:

jedamum:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]

For CL, my son's conversation topic was on community work...something like 你有做过益公吗？As for EL, pic was on MRT and conversation was the advantages of traveling on MRT.

:yikes: :yikes: if did not do 益公 before, how??!!

I thought schools usually bring students to old folks' home to entertain the old folks & will ask their parents to donate food for them to bring along? If really no such experience, then talk about other people's experience. Worse come to worse, have to use your own imagination. [/quote]Thanks Jedamum for sharing the topics. Actually, another way that the kid can mention is that if they did not do community work before (which is highly unlikely because all schools need to do CIP), they can still quote experiences of either family members (eg. siblings, cousins or other adults) who have done community work before and talk about it. The key is to ensure that the kid can continue with the topic in the conversation.