[Novena] Primary Schools

[spursburger]

Let’s be fair to P1 Mummy and be true to ourselves that we believe the current system is taken advantage by selfish parents, be it for SCGS or another school. Who likes cheats? In the real world, there are cheats everywhere. I am sure you have heard of some husbands who cheat, does it mean it is ok if they don’t get caught? Does it mean the poor wives can’t sent warnings out?


I know the odds are tough but i went ahead because I felt i should at least give it a shot and leave the rest to God’s will. If my girl loses her place to a cheat, i will be dissapointed or even likely to be angry… but i will tell myself i have done the best i could in the last 3 years of planning and this is God’s will for me and my daughter. I am just human just like P1Mummy. I will have another shot at this for my younger girl in 2 years if it doesnt work out this year.

[siau]

twoboysmommy:

siau:

bagconomics wrote:

Tks , sob balloting for SJI, shld be 24 for 22 places ya since 37 taken up


Oh, there were 60 vacancies when I was there though. Perhaps there has been a withdrawal to bring the number one up from 59.


So the numbers given above are all SC right?

Hi, yes, all SCs.

Okie..noted..tQ twoboysmommy

[chrismei]

Smile Smile:

Many thanks to this forum which kept singing St margaret's to sway bids from XX, it must have aroused the public and added much to the 26 SC additional headcounts registered today at St Margaret's. Much registration happened at the last hour. Feel so sorry for the many PR (of which 19 registered on D1 and 2 registered on D2) who have no time to react as all it looked perfectly cheerful in the early afternoon of their chance to ballot for 18 places. Luckily 3 from earlier phases withdrew and gave more room. All wish there could be one more withdrawal but the system is closed. No withdrawal could be accepted. The ballot will be next tuesday.

Thought it has always been the trend over the years. Cos smps is a safer bet compared to SCGS n MGS. If parents failed to secure a seat at SCGS n MGS, any other good options - gal School to choose???hmmm.. CHIJ - kellock n toa payoh??

[Ninja Turtle]

[quote=\"spursburger\"]Let's be fair to P1 Mummy and be true to ourselves that we believe the current system is taken advantage by selfish parents, be it for SCGS or another school. Who likes cheats? In the real world, there are cheats everywhere. I am sure you have heard of some husbands who cheat, does it mean it is ok if they don't get caught? Does it mean the poor wives can't sent warnings out?


I know the odds are tough but i went ahead because I felt i should at least give it a shot and leave the rest to God's will. If my girl loses her place to a cheat, i will be dissapointed or even likely to be angry... but i will tell myself i have done the best i could in the last 3 years of planning and this is God's will for me and my daughter. I am just human just like P1Mummy. I will have another shot at this for my younger girl in 2 years if it doesnt work out this year.[/quote

:goodpost:

Extremely well put, all the best to you next Tuesday!

[LOLMum]

spursburger:

Let's be fair to P1 Mummy and be true to ourselves that we believe the current system is taken advantage by selfish parents, be it for SCGS or another school. Who likes cheats? In the real world, there are cheats everywhere. I am sure you have heard of some husbands who cheat, does it mean it is ok if they don't get caught? Does it mean the poor wives can't sent warnings out?


r.

This is my last response on the issues brought up by p1mummy.

Let's get this straight first. The parents who replied do not approve of cheats.

If you know of a cheat, the right thing to do is to make a report and let the police, school and moe investigate.

When she said she has friend working in the legal dept of moe who is buddy buddy with the vp of scgs and getting the names and nric no (private and confidential info) is easy for her, isn't there something wrong here? Can moe staff leak p + c info to an outsider?

It is already stressful for parents at this stage, no one needs a parent to come here making threats repeatedly in her posts.

Read again what others said.

[Smile Smile]

chrismei:

Thought it has always been the trend over the years. Cos smps is a safer bet compared to SCGS n MGS. If parents failed to secure a seat at SCGS n MGS, any other good options - gal School to choose???hmmm.. CHIJ - kellock n toa payoh??

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OIC. CHIJ toa payoh no chance for >2km. I have compared CHIJ kellock vs SMPS, I prefer SMPS. Indeed SMPS is a great gals school! Great to hear many affirm it in forum. I am so happy to have opted this school for my girl!

[sglady]

LOLMum, I see what you see too.


It was all about the p & c things P1 mummy mentioned that turns all off.

But doubt that any actions would be taken by her should her DD get into SCGS successfully.

[meekfreek]

P1 Mummy is just using scare tactics in the hope that address cheats will withdraw or not apply at all. At the end of the day, do you really think the VP is going to risk his/her job and leak private information to a disgruntled parent because her kid didn’t get a place in SCGS? Would her buddy in the MOE really break protocol and get all the personal registration information from the VP and not go through the correct procedures? I seriously doubt it.


Further to this…are there any published regulations that applicants need to live in a property for more than a specified period of time? So, if you move in the day before registration, is that "illegal"? Where does it say that?

From what I see on the P1 registration form, the only thing you can be prosecuted for is giving fraudulent information. Therefore, it means using an address that you do not live in. The police would need to knock on the door and go in the house to verify that would they not?

For example, I know of one parent who used the grandparents address in the GRC of their school of choice (they live in another GRC) and joined Grassroots. After a year, they got their letter entitling them to apply under P2B. So they were able to get their daughter into their school of choice using this false address as well as in the earlier 2B phase. The beauty of this move is that in Phase 2B, there is no history of balloting even beyond 1km. So whilst P1 Mummy might be checking for cheats within 1km…please remember that there are other cheats out there who have already got their places in their school of choice.

[edgrace]

meekfreek:

P1 Mummy is just using scare tactics in the hope that address cheats will withdraw or not apply at all. At the end of the day, do you really think the VP is going to risk his/her job and leak private information to a disgruntled parent because her kid didn't get a place in SCGS? Would her buddy in the MOE really break protocol and get all the personal registration information from the VP and not go through the correct procedures? I seriously doubt it.


Further to this...are there any published regulations that applicants need to live in a property for more than a specified period of time? So, if you move in the day before registration, is that \"illegal\"? Where does it say that?

From what I see on the P1 registration form, the only thing you can be prosecuted for is giving fraudulent information. Therefore, it means using an address that you do not live in. The police would need to knock on the door and go in the house to verify that would they not?

For example, I know of one parent who used the grandparents address in the GRC of their school of choice (they live in another GRC) and joined Grassroots. After a year, they got their letter entitling them to apply under P2B. So they were able to get their daughter into their school of choice using this false address as well as in the earlier 2B phase. The beauty of this move is that in Phase 2B, there is no history of balloting even beyond 1km. So whilst P1 Mummy might be checking for cheats within 1km....please remember that there are other cheats out there who have already got their places in their school of choice.

:celebrate: Cheers to that! I am in MOE myself,( no, not as a teacher either) and i can assure you that MOE has better things to do and ARE very careful with how personal information is handled. Principals in general have a code of conduct to adhere to (DUH?!)

In addition, this 'drama' has set me thinking... I know of many lawyers myself (family, friends) and even Senior Counsels, one of which has been nominated as an MP) I must say, i have a lot of respect for them for their humility, level-headedness, graciousness and oh, maturity too. They never strike me as one to blow their own trumpet, issue threats and especially to abuse their power, no matter the situation even if it involves their children's education...
Having said that, my reaction to P1 mummy is just this.. :whut:

[keroppi]

spikey:

looks like there is a high chance that p1mummy's DD will not get in...and then all hell will break loose!

Then I'll pop back here with my coke and popcorns - got good show to watch