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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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    • Laura02L Offline
      Laura02
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      I am a FTWM and a coordinator of a PSG program.


      Yes, most PSG programs are run during office hours, primarily because these programs are organized with the students' participation in mind. ie.run during school hour, or, sometimes after school.

      The PSG is mindful that there are more FTWM like myself who are keen to participate in PSG programs. Sometimes, if the school request for it, we run post-exam activities that run for the whole morning session. Some FTWM and dads take half a day leave to participate in such programs. I, myself, go for programs that require my presence in school before I start work, or during my lunch break. And, as a coordinator, logistics work can be done after office hours 🙂

      My fellow PSG coordinators and I work very hard to contact all parents who have signed up for the PSG. We often personally call up everyone on our list, sometimes we have to call several times if we fail to speak to the person. And we do this for every program we run throughout the whole year. We have on going programs throughout the year, like library and reading; post-exam enrichment programs, and special programs to encourage and support the P6s.

      I enjoy being in the PSG, interacting with other mummies and daddies, often learning from them. I also enjoy interacting the the children, though facing a class of 40 can be very daunting. I hope that the children enjoy the activities our PSG organises for them, and derive some benefit from our programs. Although I am keenly aware that for me, time out of the office means a lower income at the end of the day, I am still glad to be actively involved in the PSG.

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      • Laura02L Offline
        Laura02
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        Oh, musn’t forget the most important person - my dc loves that I take time off work to go to her school.

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        • L Offline
          LOLMum
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          if one has no time to join psg, be a class rep. get to know the form teacher, parents of the classmates.


          it is less time consuming and lighter duties.

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            alng
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            Having been involved in both alumni and PSG, my experience is that alumni activities are organised in the evenings or on weekends while PSG activities are often held during school hours on weekdays. In the school where I am involved in, we have no problems getting PVs but the whole alumni are run by a small committee who are all working adults. We need more alumni to be involved. I am totally for the alumni phase to be modified to include active alumni only, even though I have benefitted from phase 2A many years ago as an inactive alumni then. But there will be an issue on what is deemed active. A prominent alumni who only attends one school event as a GOH annually may be deemed as active. Compare this to another alumni who spend time organising an alumni event on every Saturday (I know of one boys’ school at Bishan having weekly alumni activities).

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              keroppi
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              Laura02:
              Oh, musn't forget the most important person - my dc loves that I take time off work to go to her school.

              Yup. Must seize the day, that kind of love is fleeting ... by the time they are teens ... they go like this when they see you in school :yikes: and then quickly :siam: ... but I am sure that's not the reaction of every teen. 😉

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                gtx108
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                alng:
                Having been involved in both alumni and PSG, my experience is that alumni activities are organised in the evenings or on weekends while PSG activities are often held during school hours on weekdays. In the school where I am involved in, we have no problems getting PVs but the whole alumni are run by a small committee who are all working adults. We need more alumni to be involved. I am totally for the alumni phase to be modified to include active alumni only, even though I have benefitted from phase 2A many years ago as an inactive alumni then. But there will be an issue on what is deemed active. A prominent alumni who only attends one school event as a GOH annually may be deemed as active. Compare this to another alumni who spend time organising an alumni event on every Saturday (I know of one boys' school at Bishan having weekly alumni activities).

                Why dont we use the same criterion in 2B to measure the contribution the parents make? We can simply count the hours like PV in 2B. If you have done 40 hours of duty for the school the year before the p1 registration, then you can be counted as \"active\" alumni. I don't think it's fair to give more priority to alumni who only contribute a few hours over those who have done 40 hours of PV (some even 60 or 80 hours). How's that sound?

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                • V Offline
                  verykiasu2010
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                  pirate:


                  What I am against is putting up half-baked results inflated by GEP students just to show the school in as good a light as possible. Either don't put them up at all, or put up separate lists/tables. This is not for the benefit of present parents, but parents who are deciding which schools to register their children in.
                  verykiasu2010:

                  some parents even calling for pure-bred SC up to xx number of generations. your type ??

                  Now I really have to give you an 'F' in reading comprehension. This is not what they or I am saying here. But why so touchy?

                  since you already know it is inflated, why still bother? it is lousy except for the GEP transfer ...... why don't go to those non-GEP schools because they are good in producing GEP kids to be transferred out?

                  of course I don't understand what you are trying to say. and, F or not F, does not matter to me

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                    verykiasu2010
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                    pirate:


                    I would appreciate, at least, debating like an adult.
                    sorry I thot you are a kid

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                      verykiasu2010
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                      I think some people in their eagerness to prove a point or quote an example, mistaken between activities between PSG or parent volunteer versus alumni

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                        alng
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                        gtx108:

                        Why dont we use the same criterion in 2B to measure the contribution the parents make? We can simply count the hours like PV in 2B. If you have done 40 hours of duty for the school the year before the p1 registration, then you can be counted as \"active\" alumni. I don't think it's fair to give more priority to alumni who only contribute a few hours over those who have done 40 hours of PV (some even 60 or 80 hours). How's that sound?
                        It is not just quantity (hours) that counts, quality is, at times, more important. Consider this - a prominent alumni who is holding a high position in the ministry can fight something (eg location of the new premise) for the school vs another alumni who spend 2 hours weekly to run a taiji exercise session for the alumni. Can you say the contribution made by the prominent alumni is not valuable even though that person has probably spent a few hours on the task?

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