MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
-
limlim:
Eh, you know what I take offense at? That you refer to me as a 'he'! I'm a 'she'!
He is saying he find it incomprehensible why one don't want to go to their alma mater.
so, I post the same question, why don't he move near to his alma mater?
The answer is, because not everyone can or want to.
And because not everyone wants to enrol in the alma mater, why should alumni be given priority as compared to some who stays nearby? -
limlim:
He is saying he find it incomprehensible why one don't want to go to their alma mater.LOLMum:
Aiyoh,
not everyone can afford the property next to the alma mater lah. What if the house he could best afford is 3km away from school.
So alumni phase is the only phase whereby pp who can't afford to move near to the school have the best chance to study in a good school which so happens to bethe alma mater. :boogie:
so, I post the same question, why don't he move near to his alma mater?
The answer is, because not everyone can or want to.
And because not everyone wants to enrol in the alma mater, why should alumni be given priority as compared to some who stays nearby?
I am taking your question in general context lah...and my reply also in general chit chat.....not :nunchuk: you... 
-
rains:
If not we also make phase 1 go by distance? Lagi best!
Ok I have to disagree with you here. :evil:
P1 is sibling still there so the reason and logic is simple and clear = logistics.
No lah, I am not affected at all but I won't propose to touch this phase or you will really get a lot of
:heresmyfish: :pokeeye: :nunchuk: :rant: and end up
:clubmyself: :clubmyself: -
rains:
The fact is, every morning at around 6:45am, the yellow bas kilang drop the kids off at NYPS, and other schools, for as many years as I can remember. Have they stopped ?
After the Aristocare incident, I am not going to believe a one- or two-liner on the internet without actual evidence. I don't believe that there is a schoolbus from Malaysia taking the kids to Nanyang.phtthp:
There are kids staying in JB, non SC.
They come out very early morning cross the busy causeway attend schools in SG. Schools located in Woodlands is one area. However, not all target only Woodlands schools - no doubt Woodlands is nearest to causeway. Some also attend Nanyang primary, + some other schools along Bukit Timah belt + some other parts of SG as well, including Tampines.
http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/531420/School_s_top_student_from_across_Causeway.html
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4406&start=730
issue is :-
after so many years, already close to nearly 30 years or even more, why didn't they convert their child into SC, by now ? Knowing that SCs are fighting over scare, limited seats, key important issue is - going forward, do fellow Singaporeans feel that they still deserve priority ?
Firstly, if they live in Malaysia, the likelihood of them being SCs is not high. I know of a few SCs who live in JB for the low cost of living and bigger houses, but that's that - very few, and usually they are Malays.
Secondly, the post is implying that these kids' parents are ex-students of Nanyang (Phase 2A), which logically is not realistic (refer to Point 1). If the post does not mean that they are ex-students, then surely they have to come under Phase 2C or 3, which logistically would have ousted them from the P1 registration process already.
Thirdly, I checked with a student from Nanyang and she said she has never seen such a bus before in her five years plus of studying there, and although there are Malaysian students in her school, they live in Singapore.
Fourthly, there is a list of schoolbus vendors on Nanyang's website and I don't remember seeing a Bas Sekolah vendor or something like that on the list.
I didn't read in details but the boy featured in edvantage is a secondary school boy.
I do know of Woodlands schools having buses for children across the causeway and that's logical because of geographical reasons.
There are different reasons why people are not SCs even after a long time. It could be:
1) Best of both worlds
If I can be a Malaysian and hold Singapore PRship, why not? Just like if I can be a Singaporean and hold an American or Australian or Canadian PRship, why not? Why must they be compelled to give up their citizenship for another just because they prefer their education system?
2) Cost of living
If they become SCs, it would make more sense to live in Singapore. They might need to give up their big house in JB and live in a matchbox flat. It also means relocation and readapting to a new environment for the parents.
3) Not able to
You need to meet some criteria in order to apply for a SCship. Maybe they don't meet the criteria?
Back to the topic, I don't see why giving priority, and unlimited vacancies at that, to Phase 2A is wrong. Any normal, logical parent who takes pride in his own alma mater would want his kids to study at his own school. If I had lived in the east, I would want my own kid to study at my alma mater as well. I find it incomprehensible why parents want to register their kids in other schools unless their alma mater have been closed down or they are ashamed of their alma mater.
My husband could even chastise my kid based on his understanding of his alma mater's culture. He could support and explain the principal's rationale for certain ideals when my kid doesn't understand or follow it, even after he has left the school for decades. He could explain the trend, the tradition and the style of the school to my kid to make her see how the school has evolved or changed, and why the need for a change. It makes my kid in turn takes pride in being a student of the school.
As I type this, I can't help but wonder if most Singaporeans do not take pride in their alma mater. If they really do, there would not be an outcry against the Phase simply because one would be able to empathise with the sentiment and pride of an alma mater.
This is Malaysian bus that sends kids and workers to Singapore and it does not need to be from the school bus \"pool\" from NYPS to send kids to NYPS or any other schools in Singapore. And I doubt these are Singapore kids living in Singapore riding a Malaysian bus.
Anyway, the school buses that serves NYPS are not belonging to NYPS and they are merely service providers with a fixed routings for the NYPS kids, with an overall coordinator who is also not NYPS staff. -
rains:
ok.. I apologise..
Eh, you know what I take offense at? That you refer to me as a 'he'! I'm a 'she'!limlim:
He is saying he find it incomprehensible why one don't want to go to their alma mater.
so, I post the same question, why don't he move near to his alma mater?
The answer is, because not everyone can or want to.
And because not everyone wants to enrol in the alma mater, why should alumni be given priority as compared to some who stays nearby?
But please do not read any of the post as \"personal\". It was never meant to be. -
rains:
how to tell from the nick whether a person is a he or she ?
Eh, you know what I take offense at? That you refer to me as a 'he'! I'm a 'she'!limlim:
He is saying he find it incomprehensible why one don't want to go to their alma mater.
so, I post the same question, why don't he move near to his alma mater?
The answer is, because not everyone can or want to.
And because not everyone wants to enrol in the alma mater, why should alumni be given priority as compared to some who stays nearby? -
I appreciate that there may be good reasons for priority for alumni. But can somebody give us a good reason why there should not be a cap?
-
I seriously don’t get this thread. Parents should be rejoicing that they are given priority to send their kids to their alma mater. Why are they demanding that this priviledge should be taken away from them? I believe all Singapore parents would have had gone to primary school and thus will have an alma mater.
I believe what should be done instead is to remove the school rankings system. -
(1) Some alma maters do not exist anymore.
(2) Some alma maters are boy schools and dd is a daughter.
(3) Some alma maters are girl schools and ds is a son.
(4) Some alma maters are 20km away.
(5) Some alma maters are more equal than others. -
wearefamily:
because they are not alumni of those popular schools and their kids do not have the priority yet to those popular schoolsI seriously don't get this thread. Parents should be rejoicing that they are given priority to send their kids to their alma mater. Why are they demanding that this priviledge should be taken away from them? I believe all Singapore parents would have had gone to primary school and thus will have an alma mater.
I believe what should be done instead is to remove the school rankings system.
after their kids get in and become future alumni of the popular school, they will want to keep this priority
who cares about priority to non-popular schools !
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login