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    • G Offline
      grammartots
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      Blur Baby:
      grammartots:

      Active to Passive voice? Did you mean from direct to indirect speech? The two are different concepts.


      Yes, active to passive.
      I know, indirect and direct speech is different from passive and active.

      [quote]1) The police were very frustrated that they could not catch the drug smugglers.

      2) Did anyone tell him the good news?[/quote]Sentence (1) appears to be already a passive sentence, with the active structure as follows:

      (1a) That they could not catch the drug smugglers frustrated the police a great deal.

      For (2), the passive voice is:

      (2a) Was he told the good news?

      What answers did your school give? That might shed light on question (1).

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        sharon1234
        last edited by

        Q1 The manager watched the cashiers ______ the day’s taking.

        1. count 2. counting

        Q2 "You ____ pay for the broken vase," said Matthew.
        1. shall 2. should 3. can 4. might

        Q3 The aeroplane _____ land punctually at six o’clock if there is no delay.
        1. should 2. shall 3. will

        Q4 The pickpocket ___ have struck when the victim was dozing off.
        1. must 2. should

        Q5 It is easier to get to school (on/by) foot than by taking the bus.

        can someone help please! thanks.

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        • mother777M Offline
          mother777
          last edited by

          Let me try (hope other KSP parent can help to re-check if below is correct).

          1) count
          2)should
          3)should
          4)must
          5)by

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          • Laura02L Offline
            Laura02
            last edited by

            I would say :

            1) counting
            2) shall
            3) will
            4) must
            5) on

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              grammartots
              last edited by

              sharon1234:
              Q1 The manager watched the cashiers ______ the day's taking.

              1. count 2. counting

              Q2 \"You ____ pay for the broken vase,\" said Matthew.
              1. shall 2. should 3. can 4. might

              Q3 The aeroplane _____ land punctually at six o'clock if there is no delay.
              1. should 2. shall 3. will

              Q4 The pickpocket ___ have struck when the victim was dozing off.
              1. must 2. should

              Q5 It is easier to get to school (on/by) foot than by taking the bus.

              can someone help please! thanks.
              1) count or counting
              - count (the complete action)
              - counting (the action in progress)

              2) shall or should
              - shall if the speaker is sufficiently determined or spoken as if giving a command or threat
              - should if the speaker is merely giving advice or recommending action

              3) should or will
              - should as in suggesting or making a weak prediction
              - will if making a strong prediction (highly likely that the plane will land punctually if the condition is true)

              4) must

              5) on
              - \"on foot\" is a fixed phrase - if you go somewhere on foot, you walk there. \"by\" is usually used for means of transport e.g. We often go there by bus/train.

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                sharon1234
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                grammartots:
                sharon1234:

                Q1 The manager watched the cashiers ______ the day's taking.

                1. count 2. counting

                Q2 \"You ____ pay for the broken vase,\" said Matthew.
                1. shall 2. should 3. can 4. might

                Q3 The aeroplane _____ land punctually at six o'clock if there is no delay.
                1. should 2. shall 3. will

                Q4 The pickpocket ___ have struck when the victim was dozing off.
                1. must 2. should

                Q5 It is easier to get to school (on/by) foot than by taking the bus.

                can someone help please! thanks.

                1) count or counting
                - count (the complete action)
                - counting (the action in progress)

                2) shall or should
                - shall if the speaker is sufficiently determined or spoken as if giving a command or threat
                - should if the speaker is merely giving advice or recommending action

                3) should or will
                - should as in suggesting or making a weak prediction
                - will if making a strong prediction (highly likely that the plane will land punctually if the condition is true)

                4) must

                5) on
                - \"on foot\" is a fixed phrase - if you go somewhere on foot, you walk there. \"by\" is usually used for means of transport e.g. We often go there by bus/train.

                Thanks for sharing.
                I have done some homework and this is the finding:
                1. answer should be counting: the manager is there \"watching\" the entire process of counting the day's taking. please refer to http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv214.shtml further.

                2, 3, 5. as shared by grammertots

                4. My daughter's answer is \"should\" and I asked her to explain to me why she chose this answer. She said she was taking the side of the pickpocket - the pickpocket failed in his mission and someone was telling him that \"he should have struck when the victim was dozing off.\". :roll:

                I advised her to stand on the 'bright' side, not the 'dark' side.

                Some questions in test papers have more than one correct answers. I find it hard to bring them up to teacher sometimes.

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                  grammartots
                  last edited by

                  sharon1234:
                  grammartots:

                  [quote=\"sharon1234\"]Q1 The manager watched the cashiers ______ the day's taking.

                  1. count 2. counting

                  Q2 \"You ____ pay for the broken vase,\" said Matthew.
                  1. shall 2. should 3. can 4. might

                  Q3 The aeroplane _____ land punctually at six o'clock if there is no delay.
                  1. should 2. shall 3. will

                  Q4 The pickpocket ___ have struck when the victim was dozing off.
                  1. must 2. should

                  Q5 It is easier to get to school (on/by) foot than by taking the bus.

                  can someone help please! thanks.

                  1) count or counting
                  - count (the complete action)
                  - counting (the action in progress)

                  2) shall or should
                  - shall if the speaker is sufficiently determined or spoken as if giving a command or threat
                  - should if the speaker is merely giving advice or recommending action

                  3) should or will
                  - should as in suggesting or making a weak prediction
                  - will if making a strong prediction (highly likely that the plane will land punctually if the condition is true)

                  4) must

                  5) on
                  - \"on foot\" is a fixed phrase - if you go somewhere on foot, you walk there. \"by\" is usually used for means of transport e.g. We often go there by bus/train.

                  Thanks for sharing.
                  I have done some homework and this is the finding:
                  1. answer should be counting: the manager is there \"watching\" the entire process of counting the day's taking. please refer to http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv214.shtml further.

                  2, 3, 5. as shared by grammertots

                  4. My daughter's answer is \"should\" and I asked her to explain to me why she chose this answer. She said she was taking the side of the pickpocket - the pickpocket failed in his mission and someone was telling him that \"he should have struck when the victim was dozing off.\". :roll:

                  I advised her to stand on the 'bright' side, not the 'dark' side.

                  Some questions in test papers have more than one correct answers. I find it hard to bring them up to teacher sometimes.[/quote]The source you gave is a good one, and if you read carefully, it says both the -ing form and the bare infinitive are possible, but with different meanings. Any reason why you only picked the -ing form \"counting\"?

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                    sharon1234
                    last edited by

                    hi Grammertots,

                    I consider "counting" as the correct answer because the manager was to witness the event in progress to ensure that the cashiers didn’t pocket some of the money. But the answer key is "count". What do you think?

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                      bluesclue
                      last edited by

                      sharon1234:
                      hi Grammertots,

                      I consider \"counting\" as the correct answer because the manager was to witness the event in progress to ensure that the cashiers didn't pocket some of the money. But the answer key is \"count\". What do you think?

                      hi Sharon, Grammertots
                      allow me to put in another perspective:

                      1. The manager watched (as) the cashiers count the money.
                      2. The manager watched (as) the cashiers (were) counting the money.

                      words in () are my own interpretation of the sceanrios and when to use the -ing form. do you think this is fair interpretation?

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                        grammartots
                        last edited by

                        sharon1234:
                        hi Grammertots,

                        I consider \"counting\" as the correct answer because the manager was to witness the event in progress to ensure that the cashiers didn't pocket some of the money. But the answer key is \"count\". What do you think?
                        Hi sharon1234,
                        With perception (sense) verbs, usually both the -ing form and the bare infinitive are acceptable, but with different meanings. I would accept both.

                        From http://www.ilc.cuhk.edu.hk/english/gerunds_and_infinitives/gerunds_and_infinitives3.html:
                        [quote]Note 2: Verbs of perception can be followed by \" object + bare infinitive\" OR by \"object + verb-ing\".

                        For examples:

                        At about five in the morning she heard her husband unlock/unlocking the door and come/coming in.
                        He watched the bird make/making its nest.
                        She could smell something burn/burning.

                        Note 3: Using the bare infinitive or the verb-ing form can suggest different meanings. Compare the following:

                        I watched Serena Williams compete with Venus Williams in the women's singles final at Olympic Games (the complete event).
                        He watched the students competing in the hall when he just arrived (the event in progress).[/quote]

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