Is GEP really necessary?
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verykiasu2010:
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what so great about Da Vinci ? they are also being accused of fakes in China, land of the fakes...oh ya, may be, gifted in forgery ? or genuine copy / fake ?ruohoo97:
Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead: -
cherryc:
Gep has started since 1984 ? And yet we have so little information like cost effective analysis from MOE.
I have met this person , at p1 he tried to discuss with me war strategies after reading tons of war books in K2. P3 got selected into GEP, PSLE top 5 in Spore, Sec 1 won individual awards in interschool sports competition , Upper sec top cohort in IP school for few subjects , spends his free time teaching friends who are weaker in studies. And in actual fact, he Didnt attend the GEP program because his parents opted him out . (the 501th kid must be thanking him for the spot) I have to read 2ppaamm posts to Finally understand where his parents are coming from. And like LJ, he doesn't need the program to flourish?
In the same vein as 2ppaamm , as long as there is fairness across the board , many people will be very grateful. Most if not all parents will like their poor kids to be stimulated. , to have more attention from the school to max their potential . And many kids are bored too ( maybe teachers boring ....)
And yes I likeSheldon Tan!!
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100214-198663.html
Another mistaken point in red... there is no such thing dear.
Fairness across the board? If only 1% invited for the screening, then I would agree with you that it is unfair.
I agree with you that not being in GEP is no big deal. If we know our children best, we will groom them anyway. -
Edureach:
kekeke... nvm lah... I misunderstood you saying that they way they select must be good in everything, same thing for GEP... :stupid:2ppaamm
SAF is always looking for men/women of character and leadership. Education level is important but more critical is the ability to perform and make decisions under stressful conditions.
My guess is that humanities studies ie NUS arts and social studies is an area whereby a fair number of commanders come from. Of course NTU and SMU social sciences also produce a good number of commanders.
Totally no mention of gep. Don't knw why. -
ksi:
Because during Da vinci's time, no TV, no computer to distract him la...Modern day got Steve Job good enough already... mai tum sim...ruohoo97:
Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead:
Not so bleak la... usually so very talented people are not known when they are alive, they are better known when posthumous. If you know, da vinci live from 1452-1519. Only in 1528 then people label him as a genius until today... Best example was JS Bach....another great man for music, he was only known as great 100 years after his death...... So any conclusion this time?
good! like that I got hope! but then Dr Wolf Ksi got even greater hope .....sigh! -
Chenonceau:
I believe his mother has made it clear that he would suffer the GEP English. Btw his parents are not mathematicians, they own an IT business.
Rightly or wrongly... I had assumed that Lim Jeck owed his achievements to his parents. Why would the MOE claim credit for LJ's achievements in mainstream? In primary school, in a class of between 40 to 44, I doubt he was much better taught Math than others. In mainstream, would he have achieved what he did to get into NUSH WITHOUT mathematician parents?
When students do poorly in mainstream, it is the parents' fault. When students shine in mainstream, the system is robust?
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Aiyo.. I am going to stop this broken recorder thing. Lunch is ready! -
In NS, to get to know their mates, the following are some of the most common questions as far as jc cohort is concerned:
1. Which jc?
2. What’s your rank pt?
3. Which uni and course, both local and overseas.
Among my ds’ company which includes future doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, teachers, businessman, public servants etc, no one not a single one ever mention he hailed from gep.
His is an enhanced leadership batch which includes some of the top psle scorers and many from the dream schools that we parents hope our kids will study there. -
verykiasu2010:
And also for kids with the same talent without the same parentage or chance to get into a good school after that. It is tragedy for them, no kidding.
the gripe here is not the support from NUSH, but before he enters NUSHSun_2010:
LJ has good support of his sec school, so how come it becomes MOE's failure I dont see. Yes he was not talent spotted early on but once his calibre was known , he has been provided with good support.
Now for another story, and it is a very sad one. This is an absolutely talented boy, but he was from a poor family. Parents work day and night to ensure there's food on the table, and illiterate. They did not know to put him to tuition or a good school. To them, having him in a neighbourhood school is good because he can walk home himself at P1. The boy scored a full score at P1. At P2, he fell into bad company, and at P3, his results were still ok, but a far cry. Poor in English but excellent in Math.
He then went on to a neighbourhood school, of course, and a normal stream. In his Sec 1 class, he challenged the teacher on Math questions. His teacher knelt down on his knees (no kidding) and asked him to give him a break because he could not handle his questioning. This boy started to play truant frequently. He left school with an 'N' level cert. He is a blue collar worker, and recently in and out of IMH. The society lost a contributor it never recognized, and the parent lost a son.
This boy beat me in every subject at P1, and I was a top student. This boy beats me in everything - from chess to card games to everything we know as kids.
Gifted, but no opportunities, no parents' support. These, I know are not the concern of the society and the government. But it is wrong. -
2ppaamm:
No one-sided coin, but the greenbacks are all one-sided. Not valuable these day, hor? Hehehe... but also must keep. :moneyflies: Now I am wondering.... how come the Americans have they notes printed this way...[/quote]greenbacks ? \"In God we trust!\" ...... all others pay cash please !ksi:
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Every coin has 2 sides right? You own a one-sided coin? Better keep, very valuable. -
verykiasu2010:
Because during Da vinci's time, no TV, no computer to distract him la...Modern day got Steve Job good enough already... mai tum sim...ksi:
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Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead:
Not so bleak la... usually so very talented people are not known when they are alive, they are better known when posthumous. If you know, da vinci live from 1452-1519. Only in 1528 then people label him as a genius until today... Best example was JS Bach....another great man for music, he was only known as great 100 years after his death...... So any conclusion this time?
good! like that I got hope! but then Dr Wolf Ksi got even greater hope .....sigh![/quote]Oi... come pat pat head... we give ourselves hope la.... I can sprinkle some of mine to you... 
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Edureach:
That should be the way! But your DS time no DSA advantage, right?In NS, to get to know their mates, the following are some of the most common questions as far as jc cohort is concerned:
1. Which jc?
2. What's your rank pt?
3. Which uni and course, both local and overseas.
Among my ds' company which includes future doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, teachers, businessman, public servants etc, no one not a single one ever mention he hailed from gep.
His is an enhanced leadership batch which includes some of the top psle scorers and many from the dream schools that we parents hope our kids will study there.
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