PM Asks "What kind of people do we want to be?"

[Dora1]

Winchester


I am not in IT/banking. There are other industries around that also suffer the same fate.

3boys
I want to say that I was never xenophobic. I had lots of friends from other countries. The turning point was when certain PR managers took over and \"forced\" SC to quit so that he can bring in his own countrymen from his country. And this happened in more than 1 company. I don't think you can ever understand unless you are in our shoes. Can you imagine being squeezed out of your job due to nationality in your own country - repeatedly? Would you still open foreigners with open arms? I am sorry I am a normal human. I am not able to do that. However, I still have some personal good friends who are foreigners.

And please don't tell me that those are real talents and SC cmi. I heard from the last few ex-colleagues that the company has so many non-compliance issues now, that the HQ is sending some ang mos over to investigate. The result of the investigation was \"professionalism and technical skills of staff\".
Ours is a highly regulated industry, and the reason that we managed to attract so many foreign investments in the earlier days was SG's reputation for good quality professional workforce - made up mainly by SCs. We painstakingly build up the good reputation and its now officially destroyed by the FTs. :gloomy:

[Dora1]

Winchester


I agree the Ferrari incident is irrational. But what I am trying to say its that there is an underlying root cause for these type of irrational behaviour.
And that should be addressed. I think if we don’t remove the underlying frustration about the unequal treatment of SCs at work by PRs (not EP or whatever), those irrational xenophobic behaviour will always exist.
When people are being driven up the wall, you can’t expect them to be always rational. It’s a ticking time bomb.

[verykiasu2010]

Dora1:

Winchester


I am not in IT/banking. There are other industries around that also suffer the same fate.

3boys
I want to say that I was never xenophobic. I had lots of friends from other countries. The turning point was when certain PR managers took over and \"forced\" SC to quit so that he can bring in his own countrymen from his country. And this happened in more than 1 company. I don't think you can ever understand unless you are in our shoes. Can you imagine being squeezed out of your job due to nationality in your own country - repeatedly? Would you still open foreigners with open arms? I am sorry I am a normal human. I am not able to do that. However, I still have some personal good friends who are foreigners.

And please don't tell me that those are real talents and SC cmi. I heard from the last few ex-colleagues that the company has so many non-compliance issues now, that the HQ is sending some ang mos over to investigate. The result of the investigation was \"professionalism and technical skills of staff\".
Ours is a highly regulated industry, and the reason that we managed to attract so many foreign investments in the earlier days was SG's reputation for good quality professional workforce - made up mainly by SCs. We painstakingly build up the good reputation and its now officially destroyed by the FTs. :gloomy:

I think if you write to HSK and LHL, they will listen

[Daddy D]

I just saw the picture on straits times, page A7... On people watching NDP this year @ Esplanade waterfront...


Majority not locals... :yikes: :yikes:

How to have a big heart?

[verykiasu2010]

Daddy

I just saw the picture on straits times, page A7... On people watching NDP this year @ Esplanade waterfront...


Majority not locals... :yikes: :yikes:

How to have a big heart?

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[3Boys]

Here we go again......


Big heart?

It means acceptance in the face of adversity, graciousness under stress, it does not mean its big only when things are fine and dandy.

[3Boys]

If behaviours are unacceptable, then they are unacceptable, whatever the root cause. Is there mass hysteria and mass irrationality amongst Singaporeans, one of the most highly educated peoples in the world?


I don’t think so.

Its nastiness, in the guise of irrationality, like that SIM student making a racist rant and then excusing himself on account of being drunk.

Its become okay to make racist xenophobic comments online in Singapore. The NYT report cited by PM Lee is not far off the mark.

[Daddy D]

verykiasu2010:

Daddy

I just saw the picture on straits times, page A7... On people watching NDP this year @ Esplanade waterfront...


Majority not locals... :yikes: :yikes:

How to have a big heart?

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Thanks for posting...
Dunno want to cry or laugh... :faint:
Imagine being the odd one out when singing anthem/reciting pledge in that crowd :yikes:

[Dora1]

3 boys


We are not asking for special treatment. We are asking for EQUAL treatment on our own soils, I don’t think we are asking for too much. Big Heart in the face of adversity, graciousness, blah blah blah… I am sorry, but I think Singaporeans already have a very big heart in the sense that we still treat the foreigners with respect face to face after all unequal treatment that we get from them. At least we don’t hurl abuse in their face like what a lot of other countries do to their immigrants. And their citizens actually don’t even face the unequal workplace treatment that we are facing. So I think its very unfair to say that we don’t have a big heart and Singaporeans are xenophobic. I think we are already very tolerant. And the fact is, Foreigners are given equal opportunities in Singapore by the Singaporeans, but Singaporeans are not given equal opportunities by the Foreigners here.
The government can choose to continue denying that there is a problem, and all the anti-foreigners sentiments are because Singaporeans are not big-hearted enough.
I am sorry, but I think Singaporeans are already very big hearted for not displaying our dissatisfaction publicly like many other countries. The anoymous display of dissatisfaction in the cyber world is here to stay no matter how much propanganda there is to tell us we need foreigners because of our low birth rate, we should be big hearted, blah blah…
Subconsciously we all understand that. But if day in and out we suffer the injustice, where else do you expect the people to vent their frustrations? Are you saying we are supposed to have a big heart to a robber who we invited in as a guest, but ended up robbing us and chased us out of our own house? We still can be friends with the robber??
Can you seriously do that?
And like I said, the public sentiments is already boiling, and if no concrete actions are taken, it will just take some incident to catalyse the spread of the sentiments from the cyberworld to the real world. This is something that I don’t wish to see.
Denying the real feelings of people is not the solution. Preaching and telling the people to have a big heart without recognizing and addressing the real problem is like pouring fuel on fire on people’s feelings.

How did we end up being like that? For the record, I don’t believe in posting nasty anti-foreigners remarks online which are unsubstantiated. However, I can fully understand why some people do it, having been through it (and going through it everyday now).

[wearefamily]

Where I stay, almost a third of the residents are foreigners. I observed that these residents, including their children, tend to stick to their own cliques. I see no effort made to integrate themselves with the locals. Guess the numbers of their own countrymen are big enough here. For example, the children from Japan will have a clique, children from India another clique, from Ang moh countries, etc etc etc…wonder if it is the same elsewhere in Singapore.


Sorry am I off-topic?