MOE not tweaking P1 registration

[Nebbermind]

Chenonceau:

Once you name the school, no one will say anything.


I am a parent too. My DS' school tests hard and teaches little. Many kids have tuition. That's one way to get quality passes. But this line of reasoning distracts from the key question that puzzles me so I will repeat it here.

I still don't understand how HSK can say that small classes don't matter to quality teaching when GEP and LSP have small classes.

I am curious... what is your view Nebbermind? Do you think that since MGS etc can get quality passes with classes of 40, then class size does not matter? If that is so, why does your child in GEP get to enjoy small classes of 25?

When I say it doesn't matter? I'm always for it!! :evil:
I believe that smaller class size allows more interaction (just like your one-to-one coaching of your kid) and in GEP, it's not so much the material but the way lessons are dispensed/delivered.

But that being said, since we will not see it happening soon, perhaps we learn from those who could still manage with it. ya?

[Freesia]

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[mamemo]

Chenonceau:

Get the basics infrastructure for literary and numeracy right first before we demand more of MOE. It is already so stretched. Poor thing.

Fully agree !

However, I think literary and numeracy basics should have been the primary focus of MOE primary schools since day 1. Somehow, the direction got de-railed along the way when MOE tried to introduce holistic education etc etc. Just look at this : http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2011/09/recognising-best-practices-of-schools.php Ended up schools who are already weak in literacy and numeracy, went chasing after the awards, and it became a vicious cycle.

If they have continued the focus on the basic skills since day 1, they should not be stretched now... err, so MOE don't deserve my sympathies.

[Chenonceau]

Nebbermind:

When I say it doesn't matter? I'm always for it!! :evil:
I believe that smaller class size allows more interaction (just like your one-to-one coaching of your kid) and in GEP, it's not so much the material but the way lessons are dispensed/delivered.

But that being said, since we will not see it happening soon, perhaps we learn from those who could still manage with it. ya?

I agree with your appraisal, Nebbermind. It is unrealistic to expect MOE to bring mainstream class sizes down to 25... However, @dear Mr HSK... that is not the same as saying class size doesn't matter. As Nebbermind said, \"The way lessons are dispensed/delivered\" does make a difference to quality of teaching.

Actually, I am happy already that MOE is taking steps to develop materials for Stellar Upper Primary so that teachers don't have to also write their own curriculum materials. That is already something to be grateful for. Please, those parents who want small classes... don't flame me. I want them as badly as you... but it has been so long (2 years) that I am grateful for whatever scraps MOE can give that are leftover from GEP.

[dorisp]

rains:

The dilemma will only arise when the school next door is so much better than the alma mater.

That I think....is rather true.

:evil:

[keroppi]

Nebbermind:

rains:

The dilemma will only arise when the school next door is so much better than the alma mater.

I may be a fool...but STILL alma mater!!!

Me too. :evil:

[looking4Tutor]

No more banding for secondary schools hence all schools are good school. Just a joke shared this morning.

[limlim]

rains:

Given that everything is equal, the one with alumni sure put the child in the alma mater. The dilemma will only arise when the school next door is so much better than the alma mater.

You sure......?

Everything equal except distance and affection. You choose affection over distance? I guess not many would do that.

for the very rich, maybe anywhere in SG not much difference to them.

But for most middle range families, the larger distance not only translates to inconvenience, but logistics, cost (petrol, sch bus e.t.c.), effort, traveling time etc..

well.. anyway.. it's their choice..

If later any alumni rant about costly sch bus, kid wake up at 5.30am etc go home very late etc..... maybe I can arm chio....... :evil:

[rains]

limlim:

You sure......?

Everything equal except distance and affection. You choose affection over distance? I guess not many would do that.

for the very rich, maybe anywhere in SG not much difference to them.

But for most middle range families, the larger distance not only translates to inconvenience, but logistics, cost (petrol, sch bus e.t.c.), effort, traveling time etc..

well.. anyway.. it's their choice..

If later any alumni rant about costly sch bus, kid wake up at 5.30am etc go home very late etc..... maybe I can arm chio....... :evil:

I hope I don't sound rude but you sound like you don't have an alma mater, because you don't seem to understand the sentiment of an alumni.

A few other ksparents have already testified to the sentiment as per your question earlier on, and theirs appear to be even stronger because they stated that they would still choose their alma mater even when the school near home is much better than their alma mater.

There are other considerations apart from proximity for some of us. I personally considered the peers' influence and the probability of getting a place at either school when I chose the alma mater over a popular school near home.

And I don't think people who choose alma mater despite long distance would complain that much about the need to wake up early because they already know the implication before they send their kids there. My kid for one woke up at 5am for more than 5 years just to attend her dad's alma mater and I never once doubted that I would send her there if i were presented with the dilemma all over again.

[Chenonceau]

rains:

limlim:

You sure......?

Everything equal except distance and affection. You choose affection over distance? I guess not many would do that.

for the very rich, maybe anywhere in SG not much difference to them.

But for most middle range families, the larger distance not only translates to inconvenience, but logistics, cost (petrol, sch bus e.t.c.), effort, traveling time etc..

well.. anyway.. it's their choice..

If later any alumni rant about costly sch bus, kid wake up at 5.30am etc go home very late etc..... maybe I can arm chio....... :evil:

I hope I don't sound rude but you sound like you don't have an alma mater, because you don't seem to understand the sentiment of an alumni.

A few other ksparents have already testified to the sentiment as per your question earlier on, and theirs appear to be even stronger because they stated that they would still choose their alma mater even when the school near home is much better than their alma mater.

There are other considerations apart from proximity for some of us. I personally considered the peers' influence and the probability of getting a place at either school when I chose the alma mater over a popular school near home.

And I don't think people who choose alma mater despite long distance would complain that much about the need to wake up early because they already know the implication before they send their kids there. My kid for one woke up at 5am for more than 5 years just to attend her dad's alma mater and I never once doubted that I would send her there if i were presented with the dilemma all over again.

It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love.