MOE not tweaking P1 registration
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read yesterday's wan bao abt the above and already some parents commented that since school give less homework, then the more the need to have tuition so as to 'have more preparation than doing less' :slapshead:
one parent commented that if her child is scoring 80 marks and her classmates are 90 and above, definitely must have tuition. -
MR06:
MOE is not tweaking the policy at the moment does not mean MOE is not tweaking the policy forever.
It may surprise you before the next P1 registration just as it had surprised the PRs in this year's registration!
Your statement may contain certain elements of truth, but it may make some :nunchuk: :rant: :mad: .........
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pinky:
:faint: Now that is true ks.read yesterday's wan bao abt the above and already some parents commented that since school give less homework, then the more the need to have tuition so as to 'have more preparation than doing less' :slapshead:
one parent commented that if her child is scoring 80 marks and her classmates are 90 and above, definitely must have tuition.
MOE should get ALL their schools to submit the school exam papers, starting with P6 prelim papers and review the standard set. Schools are known to set 'wake up' papers...so MOE should take a look if those wake-up calls will WAKE students/parents or scare the hell out of them to the point of demoralized. -
But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren’t any "overly tough" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to "max-out" the scores? Making those "overly tough" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even ‘O’ levels, this is not easy to do.
Also, even 30 years ago, the so-called top schools’ prelim papers were always much tougher than the national exams. Back then, in my school for example, a B3 in Chinese as a first language during the prelim could easily result in an A1 at ‘O’ Levels, and a C5 in Additional Maths could result in an A2.
So long as the competition is against other kids, this is not exactly a new problem and I don’t see how it will go away. How many parents will be able to accept that their kids may just simply be less brilliant than others academically? And how many of us parents subscribe to the traditional view that not clever never mind, can always make up for it with hard work?
Ultimately, unless there are more pathways to ‘success’ than that coveted good university degree, all these will still come to nought. -
pirate:
This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.
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Chenonceau:
It really sounds like a sarcastic question
This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?pirate:
But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.
but perhaps this question would be best answered by the world's best-paid leaders who believe in protecting and producing the elites.
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rains:
Oops! It really isn't. I just wanna understand to perspective behind the conclusion.
It really sounds like a sarcastic question ... -
Chenonceau:
If you are looking at who is going on to university, who are the doctors/lawyers/professors of the future, you need something to base that on. If everyone is scoring As how to we know who has a talent in which area?
This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?pirate:
But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.
If the exams are too predictable or easy then everyone can obtain As and no-one knows who is really smart and who just spent hours cramming. This is the reason why I like the changes being introduced to PSLE English. They may not have said this but I think it will help to distinguish the really good from the ones who've had hours of tuition and stock answers provided by their teachers. -
nms1:
Don't all professions need smart people?
If you are looking at who is going on to university, who are the doctors/lawyers/professors of the future, you need something to base that on. If everyone is scoring As how to we know who has a talent in which area?
If the exams are too predictable or easy then everyone can obtain As and no-one knows who is really smart and who just spent hours cramming. This is the reason why I like the changes being introduced to PSLE English. They may not have said this but I think it will help to distinguish the really good from the ones who've had hours of tuition and stock answers provided by their teachers. -
rains:
It really sounds like a sarcastic question
This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?Chenonceau:
[quote=\"pirate\"]But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.
but perhaps this question would be best answered by the world's best-paid leaders who believe in protecting and producing the elites.[/quote]The same reason why you want to be operated on by the best surgeons, represented in court by the best lawyer if you can afford it, and queue up at supposedly the best prawn mee stall. Ok, the last one is not academic, but the principle is still the same.
Where do you get this idea that the \"elite\" is \"protected\" (makes for a good soundbyte but what does that mean)? And why slip that in?
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