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    MP echoes calls for PSLE to be scrapped

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    • phankaoP Offline
      phankao
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      meiah:
      phankao:

      [quote=\"Nebbermind\"]
      And have to choose yr sec schools six month before exams. A lot didn't wanna take risk so even top students didn't choose the very top schools at that time. Better distribution in a way.

      Wasn't that the practice in the 1990s? In the 1980s, my friends were still just sharing yesterday that they put in their secondary school selections only AFTER the results out.

      I know definitely in the mid 2000s, they'd changed back to this similar system (after psle results).

      Then that must have been early 80s. Cos by late 80s, it was choose sch first then get psle result.[/quote]Yes, for them was early 80s.

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      • isetanI Offline
        isetan
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        Ever since HSK took over the ministry, this is the biggest change ever, and bold enough. Wonder is this similar to China education system…where their only national exam is when the child reaches so call "A Level" stage, at age abt 18, competing for a place in the prestigious university.

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          Melodies
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          Why worries? No banding now, every school is a good school now! why need to use psle for sec school placement? Any school would do since they r equally good! why need to use plse to group all the bright students into school 1, 2… but group those students with poor results to school x,y,z…to make them somewhat different from each other, then how to be every school is. A good le?

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            vlim
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            Both dh and I cannot accept the idea of scraping away the psle … No doubt they striving to make every school a good school but every individual learning abilities are different …, England has taken away psle right? And recent report shows tt the results of their students drop right … So why must we follow their footsteps?..

            Sorry to say I don’t like 'bold changes '. As what some of the parents here have mentioned, the ministry should think of steps to improve from current systems and not to scrape it which might end up making us move backward …Don’t let any of our children be scape goats …

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            • NebbermindN Offline
              Nebbermind
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              Then encourage more schools to have DSA lor.

              If students have been performing consistently and meet the expectation of the school he’s applying, then psle is just a matter whether he will qualify for the express stream.
              If he think he has better chance with a top school via S1/psle results, then gotta go thru the stress lor.

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                BeContented
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                vlim:
                Both dh and I cannot accept the idea of scraping away the psle ... No doubt they striving to make every school a good school but every individual learning abilities are different .., England has taken away psle right? And recent report shows tt the results of their students drop right ... So why must we follow their footsteps?..

                Sorry to say I don't like 'bold changes '. As what some of the parents here have mentioned, the ministry should think of steps to improve from current systems and not to scrape it which might end up making us move backward ..Don't let any of our children be scape goats ..
                Agree.

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                  Mychildren
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                  I also don't want my children to be guinea pigs! 😆

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                    concern2
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                    beanbear:

                    So what I would ask is for MOE to review what's really the purpose of PSLE? Is it healthy to have the best of the best students for the Top 10 schools to be bundled up together? Is it not elitist to have schools where there are no \"slower\" students? Why? Why must top students only be among themselves? How do we teach these students to have compassion for \"slower\" people? How else do they learn to be more understanding of people who are less academic than they are, who have different abilities & intelligences? Must we already have such segregation at Secondary level? That's what the PSLE is supporting. That's what I have issues with.
                    To understand, one needs to look at what is 精英政治:

                    精英政治或專家政治的内核是:在任何人类组织中,总是分为两个部分,统治阶级和被统治阶级,统治阶级人数很少,属于精英,组织中的大多数是被统治阶级。无论组织开始时如何民主,最终会形成寡头统治,即寡头统治铁律。

                    新加坡可以算是一个典型的精英政治国家,其领导人对此也不讳言。一些人批评它的教育制度就是一个选拔精英的制度(学生从小学四年级开始就被按学术能力分流),而且也是为精英所设计的制度(例如只有15%的学生能够进入政府资助的当地大学,其余大多数人只能进入理工学院);只有那些获得人民行动党邀请的精英才可能进入政府部门担任领导人,普通平民很难通过其他民主途径从政等。


                    (source: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B2%BE%E8%8B%B1%E6%94%BF%E6%B2%BB)

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                    • janet88J Offline
                      janet88
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                      vlim:
                      England has taken away psle right? And recent report shows tt the results of their students drop right ... So why must we follow their footsteps?..

                      Sorry to say I don't like 'bold changes '. As what some of the parents here have mentioned, the ministry should think of steps to improve from current systems and not to scrape it which might end up making us move backward ..Don't let any of our children be scape goats ..
                      Same here. I hate the idea of extreme changes. I am not in favour of DSA either.
                      PSLE should continue. Some schools attempt to make kids feel that 'it is end of the world' if they don't achieve certain COP. Are these schools trying to hit above average KPIs ??? Naturally some parents (and MPs) will want to scrape PSLE with such pressure imposed on the kids.
                      All our kids are working very very hard this year. They do not need more unncessary pressure before they assemble in front of IMH.

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                        vlim
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                        janet_lee88:
                        vlim:

                        England has taken away psle right? And recent report shows tt the results of their students drop right ... So why must we follow their footsteps?..

                        Sorry to say I don't like 'bold changes '. As what some of the parents here have mentioned, the ministry should think of steps to improve from current systems and not to scrape it which might end up making us move backward ..Don't let any of our children be scape goats ..

                        Same here. I hate the idea of extreme changes. I am not in favour of DSA either.
                        PSLE should continue. Some schools attempt to make kids feel that 'it is end of the world' if they don't achieve certain COP. Are these schools trying to hit above average KPIs ??? Naturally some parents (and MPs) will want to scrape PSLE with such pressure imposed on the kids.
                        All our kids are working very very hard this year. They do not need more unncessary pressure before they assemble in front of IMH.

                        Oh yes .. If we think that our kids have very little chance for DSA then we can just forget about it and get our kids to study hard for psle unless we want our kid to experience the DSA process be it successful or not..
                        Seriously I think moe shd look into and control the amt of stress the pri school is giving to the kids in preparing them for psle .. I believe some schools are doing fine while some are putting too much stress ..

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