THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chenwj]

Actually many things in life are \"discriminatory\". It's how u live with it


In their countries, LGBT are able to get married and gain state recognition. But I understand there's are differences between Civil Union and full Marriage in their context and they are pushing for their respective states to recognize a \"Full marriage\".

I think the issue here is about reaching a compromise and testing the limits on how far the society is able to accept diverse views from a seemingly \"minority\" group.

The gay sex law in this context of this discussion is 377A, which prohibits the sex between 2 consenting males. Yes it is discriminatory because sex between 2 consenting males is illegal but sex between 2 consenting females is not. :evil: :evil: So by that argument, gays here are perceived to be criminals due to 377A. I am not supporting the gays because if they argue they are perceived to be criminals due to 377A, then almost the whole of Singapore are criminals because I'm sure majority of Singaporeans regardless of sexual orientations bought pirated DVDs or downloaded movies from the net one way or another. Also, I guess some of us here watch porn with your wife or your husband? Technically we are all criminals. So the issue here is whether do the Police enforce these anti-piracy laws / copyright laws / anti-porn laws / anti-gay sex law. :?

SAHM_TAN:

From my understanding after reading the article, the words mother and father are replaced with parents in forms and such. I don't think kids with
heterosexual parents cannot call them mummy and daddy or other variations.

I mean for same sex couples, it would not be possible to designate who's the father and who's the mother. I guess there can be 2 forms printed, 1 for heterosexual parents and same sex couples but then it might perceive as a form of discrimination.

The norm of a society is determined by the communities within the particular society. If some have accepted that same sex couples is the norm then just live and let live. I think it's good that they are able to accommodate.

It must be a relieve to live without discrimination, at least in the legal sense.

[chenwj]

pirate:

But this is homophobic and discriminatory. Why only couples can marry? Why singles cannot marry themselves? Why threesomes and foursomes cannot marry and form a family unit?


Why only couples can adopt? Why single or threesome cannot?

Why? Why? Why? :stompfeet:

that's why i always tell people, many things in life are \"discriminatory\". It's how u live with it Btw, I feel Woman's Charter is discriminatory!!!! :shock:

Singles (regardless whether they are male or female) can adopt children. Shocking to know? :yikes:
[quote]You may adopt a child if you satisfy the following requirements:

- Being a Resident of Singapore
- At least 25 years of age
- At least 21 years older than the child

Even if you are under the age of 25 and less than 21 years older than the child, the adoption may be allowed if you and the child are related by blood or if there are other special circumstances justifying the adoption.

If you are a single male, you will not be allowed to adopt a female child in the absence of special circumstances to justify the adoption. [They are assuming everyone is heterosexual. This is also discriminatory against the non-heterosexuals! Remember the recent report about the male tuition teacher who preyed on his male students...]

A married person cannot on his/her own adopt a child unless the consent of his/her spouse is given. An exception is when the spouse cannot be found or is incapable of giving consent or is living apart and the separation is likely to be permanent. In such a case, the Court may dispense with such consent.

Foreign prospective adoptive parents (including permanent residents in Singapore) should consult their respective embassies and obtain a letter stating the embassies? support for the adoption and that the child will be conferred citizenship upon application by the adoptive parents.
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[pirate]

I want a four person civil union! :stompfeet:


We should be referred to as Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3 and Parent 4. :grphug:

[SAHM_TAN]

chenwj:

Actually many things in life are \"discriminatory\". It's how u live with it


In their countries, LGBT are able to get married and gain state recognition. But I understand there's are differences between Civil Union and full Marriage in their context and they are pushing for their respective states to recognize a \"Full marriage\".

I think the issue here is about reaching a compromise and testing the limits on how far the society is able to accept diverse views from a seemingly \"minority\" group.

The gay sex law in this context of this discussion is 377A, which prohibits the sex between 2 consenting males. Yes it is discriminatory because sex between 2 consenting males is illegal but sex between 2 consenting females is not. :evil: :evil: So by that argument, gays here are perceived to be criminals due to 377A. I am not supporting the gays because if they argue they are perceived to be criminals due to 377A, then almost the whole of Singapore are criminals because I'm sure majority of Singaporeans regardless of sexual orientations bought pirated DVDs or downloaded movies from the net one way or another. Also, I guess some of us here watch porn with your wife or your husband? Technically we are all criminals. So the issue here is whether do the Police enforce these anti-piracy laws / copyright laws / anti-porn laws / anti-gay sex law. :?

SAHM_TAN:

From my understanding after reading the article, the words mother and father are replaced with parents in forms and such. I don't think kids with
heterosexual parents cannot call them mummy and daddy or other variations.

I mean for same sex couples, it would not be possible to designate who's the father and who's the mother. I guess there can be 2 forms printed, 1 for heterosexual parents and same sex couples but then it might perceive as a form of discrimination.

The norm of a society is determined by the communities within the particular society. If some have accepted that same sex couples is the norm then just live and let live. I think it's good that they are able to accommodate.

It must be a relieve to live without discrimination, at least in the legal sense.

I thought was discussing abt the article.

[SAHM_TAN]

pirate:

I want a four person civil union! :stompfeet:


We should be referred to as Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3 and Parent 4. :grphug:

I'm not sure if here have but other ctries yes.

[Nebbermind]

pirate:

I want a four person civil union! :stompfeet:


We should be referred to as Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3 and Parent 4. :grphug:

You meant Pirate1, Pirate2, Pirate3 & Pirate4, right?

[limlim]

thisis2012:

If the PAP allows polygamy, one husband multiple wives, will your vote still go to them?

Yes.. of course.

That's the way mother nature designed it to be.

Anyway.. polygamy is allowed for some pple.. LEGALLY.

in case you're not aware.

Surely AWARE is aware of it but they can't do anything..

[Nebbermind]

Will AWARE lobby for one wife, multiple husbands??!! :evil:

[limlim]

pirate:

I want a four person civil union! :stompfeet:


We should be referred to as Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3 and Parent 4. :grphug:

Or you can call them East. South, West, North parents......

depending on which is their favorite position on the dry pool..

[limlim]

Nebbermind:

Will AWARE lobby for one wife, multiple husbands??!! :evil:

Not very efficient to propagate the species..