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    Q&A - P4 Math

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    • S Offline
      smartmummy
      last edited by

      htn:
      need help for the following:


      1) what is the difference between the 5th multiple of 8 and the sum of all the factors of 25?

      2) Gina had 12 more fifty-cent coins than one-dollar coins. When she exchanged all of the fifty-cent coins for one-dollar coins, she had 18 one-dollar coins altogether. How many fifty-cent coins did she have?

      TIA
      1) 5th multiple of 8 = 40
      sum of all the factors of 25=25+1+5=31
      difference 40-31=9
      2)ans is 20....couldn't go down to write as using iphone.
      fifty-cent [ u |12 ]
      one doll [ u]
      (u+12)/2+u=18
      u+12+2u=36
      u=8

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      • MathIzzzFunM Offline
        MathIzzzFun
        last edited by

        htn:
        need help for the following:


        1) what is the difference between the 5th multiple of 8 and the sum of all the factors of 25?

        2) Gina had 12 more fifty-cent coins than one-dollar coins. When she exchanged all of the fifty-cent coins for one-dollar coins, she had 18 one-dollar coins altogether. How many fifty-cent coins did she have?

        TIA
        1)
        5th multiple of 8 --> 40
        factors of 25 --> 1,5,25 --- total 31
        (3 factors only. All square numbers have odd number of factors because one of the factors has a twin)

        40-31=9

        2) total amount = $18
        12 more fifty cents coins --> $6
        $18-$6 = $12 --- removing the excess 50-cents so that there are equal number of $1 and 50-cent coins,
        $12 / (1+0.50) = 8

        number of $1 coins = 8
        number of 50-cent coins = 8 + 12 = 20

        cheers.

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          lotto
          last edited by

          htn:
          need help for the following:


          1) what is the difference between the 5th multiple of 8 and the sum of all the factors of 25?

          2) Gina had 12 more fifty-cent coins than one-dollar coins. When she exchanged all of the fifty-cent coins for one-dollar coins, she had 18 one-dollar coins altogether. How many fifty-cent coins did she have?

          TIA

          1) 5th multiple of 8 is 5 x 8 = 40
          factors of 25 is 1, 5 and 25. so the sum of all factors is 1 + 5 + 25 = 31
          difference is 40 - 31 = 9

          2) the easiest method to undestand is this assumption i think. or maybe u can try to draw the model
          assume the no. of $1 is 2 units.
          So the no. of 50cents is 2 units + 12
          When u change all the 50 cents to $1, the no. of $1 u will get is 1 unit + 6 (which is half of 2 units + 12)
          Total number of $1 u have now is 2 units + 1 unit + 6 = 3 units + 6
          3 units + 6 = 12
          3 units = 6
          1 unit = 2
          50-cents = 2 units + 12 = 16 coins

          hope it helps :roll:

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            ruohoo97
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            smartmummy:
            hi ruohoo97!

            pls check ur calculation....
            9b=72*2
            1b=8*2
            i think u missed multiply by2?
            Yes, smartmummy, you are absolutely right!

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              BigDevil
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              lotto:
              htn:


              2) Gina had 12 more fifty-cent coins than one-dollar coins. When she exchanged all of the fifty-cent coins for one-dollar coins, she had 18 one-dollar coins altogether. How many fifty-cent coins did she have?

              TIA

              3 units + 6 = 12
              3 units = 6
              1 unit = 2
              50-cents = 2 units + 12 = 16 coins

              Think it should be
              3 units + 6 = 18

              since Gina had 18 one-dollar coins after exchanging all the 50-cent coins?

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                ssmummy
                last edited by

                Use guess and check method in a table format


                The difference between the 50 cents coin and $1 coin is always 12 pieces

                50 cents coins $1 coin Is the total equal to $18?
                12 pieces 0 piece. No ($6)
                13 pieces. 1 piece. No. ($6.50 + $1 = $7.50)
                16 pieces. 4 pieces. No ($8 + $4 = $12)
                20 pieces. 8 pieces. Yes ($10 + $8 = $18)

                There are 20 pieces of 50 cents coin šŸ™‚

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                  htn
                  last edited by

                  Hi, smartmummy,MathIzzzFun, lotto, BigDevil


                  Thanks

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                    lotto
                    last edited by

                    BigDevil:
                    lotto:

                    [quote=\"htn\"]
                    2) Gina had 12 more fifty-cent coins than one-dollar coins. When she exchanged all of the fifty-cent coins for one-dollar coins, she had 18 one-dollar coins altogether. How many fifty-cent coins did she have?

                    TIA

                    3 units + 6 = 12
                    3 units = 6
                    1 unit = 2
                    50-cents = 2 units + 12 = 16 coins

                    Think it should be
                    3 units + 6 = 18

                    since Gina had 18 one-dollar coins after exchanging all the 50-cent coins?[/quote]
                    Oops... u are right BigDevil.
                    That's why I always get 99 or 98 for my math paper because of this kind of thing šŸ˜‚


                    ssmummy:
                    Use guess and check method in a table format

                    The difference between the 50 cents coin and $1 coin is always 12 pieces

                    50 cents coins $1 coin Is the total equal to $18?
                    12 pieces 0 piece. No ($6)
                    13 pieces. 1 piece. No. ($6.50 + $1 = $7.50)
                    16 pieces. 4 pieces. No ($8 + $4 = $12)
                    20 pieces. 8 pieces. Yes ($10 + $8 = $18)

                    There are 20 pieces of 50 cents coin šŸ™‚
                    this guess n check method is also good :goodpost:

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                      elisammom
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                      Hi,

                      Doreen has ome $5 and %10 notes. The notes add up to $470 in total. There are four more $5 notes than $10 notes. How many $5 notes does Doreen have?

                      solution:
                      5x4 = 20
                      470-20 =450
                      450/15 = 30
                      30+4 = 34

                      Pls advise, why 30 + 4 is equal to nos of $5 notes?

                      Thanks.

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                      • MathIzzzFunM Offline
                        MathIzzzFun
                        last edited by

                        elisammom:
                        Hi,

                        Doreen has ome $5 and %10 notes. The notes add up to $470 in total. There are four more $5 notes than $10 notes. How many $5 notes does Doreen have?

                        solution:
                        5x4 = 20
                        470-20 =450
                        450/15 = 30
                        30+4 = 34

                        Pls advise, why 30 + 4 is equal to nos of $5 notes?

                        Thanks.
                        When you remove the 4 extra $5 notes, there will be equal number of $5 and $10 left with total amount = $470-$20 = $450

                        one group of (1x$5 note+ 1X$10 note) = $15
                        $450 / $15 = 30 groups
                        there is 1x$5 note in one group and 4x$5 was removed first,
                        so total number of $5 notes = 30 x 1 + 4 = 34

                        cheers.

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