PM Lee: What future do you want for Singapore?

[Funz]

Honestly is it really possible to be the same regardless of who we are with? We definitely tune up or tone down our behaviour and responses when we are with different people. We know that with like minded friends we can get away with some more radical stuff but with others, we may have to ease up a little on the extremes.


I think on the internet, people get carried away as here is no immediate ‘check’. Take FB posts, while ranting we are just facing ourselves, we will not be able to see other people’s response until the post is up on the page. If this person had been in a face to face conversation she would have been able to control her rant base on the response of the people around her.

[limlim]

3Boys:

Private lives are private, I think she is entitled to live her private life any way she deems fit.

But FB is not private, it is public. Many people don't understand that.

It not so much that the pple don't realise it is public..

More often than not, it is just that they underestimated the power of Google.. the digging machine. In the hands of a skilled operator.. one can often find gold..

[verykiasumummy]

mamago:

Sorry, people, :offtopic: pardon me for asking, is NTUC a part of the government body? :?


(Huh? I am confused, thought NTUC is an workers' union and co-op, no? :scratchhead: )

NTUC is now privatised...

but many will still link them together with garment..

[Lilac66]

mamago:

Sorry, people, :offtopic: pardon me for asking, is NTUC a part of the government body? :?


(Huh? I am confused, thought NTUC is an workers' union and co-op, no? :scratchhead: )

I believe it's not part of the govt body, but a worker's union. They recently spoke up to lobby to the govt for more paternity leave .
Correct me if I'm wrong.

[verykiasumummy]

Lilac66:

This lady is doing exactly what I'm teaching my 11 year old not to do... posting racist comments. Whether it's on fb or whatever, it's still public. Did she just come back from another planet? Hasn't she seen all the barrage of criticisms and the resentment towards such posters?


If she had shared that post behind a nick, it probably would not generate so much heat.But on her facebook, where people know her identity? What's gone to her mind?. Firing her is to convince people that NTUC has never subscribed to such a notion.

prolly she's in once-in-a-month http://i50.tinypic.com/2e1vner.gif\">

[verykiasumummy]

limlim:

3Boys:

Private lives are private, I think she is entitled to live her private life any way she deems fit.

But FB is not private, it is public. Many people don't understand that.

It not so much that the pple don't realise it is public..

More often than not, it is just that they underestimated the power of Google.. the digging machine. In the hands of a skilled operator.. one can often find gold..

how to find gold with google?? pls enlighten me... :xedfingers:

[3Boys]

Imami:

i know where you are coming from 3boys but it doesnt work this way. Public officers are to conduct themselves in a manner that upholds the integrity of the Public Service and public confidence in it and should not behave in a way that will bring the Public Service into disrepute.

Imami, I think we are both saying the same thing, except that our definitions are perhaps different. She is a public servant, it is not the same as a person running for public office, what she does in her private time, if she is not breaking the law, is really her own business, IMO. If in her own time, she were involved in binge drinking and wild parties, without affecting her work, why does it matter one whit to anyone? It will of course be different if she were a politician standing for public office.

However, in going 'public' with her views, i.e. stating a racist opinion on a platform (FB) that publicises that opinion and makes it accessible to a wide audience, then she has crossed the line and puts herself at the mercy of her employer.

[3Boys]

Imami:

3Boys, or anyone for the matter, do you know if personal blogs are considered \"public\"?


i re-read your post and I believe I didn’t catch what you are saying earlier. Your point is “FB” is public but most people think that FB is their private life. My point was she is a public officer so she needs to adhere to the prescribed code of conduct, doesnt matter where/what. So I am wondering how about personal blog which is available for all to view?

Imami,
my private and public personas are different. Even my private persona to my parents is different from my private persona to my wife, which is different from what it is to my children. How can it not be? I am a son to one, a spouse to the other, a father to the last.

When I am at the office I will adhere to the code of conduct expected at the office. I do not adhere to that code of conduct at home, or I will never tickle my kids or sleep with my wife, would I?

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

Private lives are private, I think she is entitled to live her private life any way she deems fit.

But FB is not private, it is public. Many people don't understand that.

It not so much that the pple don't realise it is public..

More often than not, it is just that they underestimated the power of Google.. the digging machine. In the hands of a skilled operator.. one can often find gold..

One always needs to be watchful of what one posts on an internet platform. It is always discoverable.

[verykiasumummy]

3Boys:

Imami:

3Boys, or anyone for the matter, do you know if personal blogs are considered \"public\"?


i re-read your post and I believe I didn’t catch what you are saying earlier. Your point is “FB” is public but most people think that FB is their private life. My point was she is a public officer so she needs to adhere to the prescribed code of conduct, doesnt matter where/what. So I am wondering how about personal blog which is available for all to view?

Imami,
my private and public personas are different. Even my private persona to my parents is different from my private persona to my wife, which is different from what it is to my children. How can it not be? I am a son to one, a spouse to the other, a father to the last.

When I am at the office I will adhere to the code of conduct expected at the office. I do not adhere to that code of conduct at home, or I will never tickle my kids or sleep with my wife, would I?

yup, true enough...

so i would concur that in each of our different role, we are able to express in a different manner. for her such behaviour of harbouring a thought against racism, she could openly express in front of her friends, in a private group, but certainly not publicly...

right, 3boys??