Secondary School Selection 2012

[Nebbermind]

I’m quite confident that the new IP schools have already done their homework and ensure that the ‘promotion’ of the pri students to sec remains about the same as previous years despite the new IP program.

[phtthp]

anyone know how many Total 2013 Sec 1 classes, in both CHIJ St Nick and SCGS ?


is the Total number of classes going to stay put the same as current year, or increase due to new intake of IP students ?

[kwcllf]

Simon KP:

Hi Guys, do you have any feedback on SJI IB? Any idea on the COP?

Next year is the first time SJI offers IP track. So, there is no record what its COP for IP is.

For O level track, the COP for 2012 is 242.

I believes the COP for IP will be higher as they only invited top 20 male students from neighourhood schools to attend its talk earlier this year via DSA.

[jtoh]

hercules:

alng:

All affiliated pri sch students will enter the sec school first so long they meet the affiliated COP. Then whatever leftover vacancies will be given to non-affiliated students. The COP will then be determined. This is why NYGH's COP is higher than RGS, not because NYGH is more popular than RGS but because girls from NYPS get in first at COP of 250 before the non-affiliated students get in.

Correct me if I am wrong.

From what i understand for school such as SCGS, their admission of affilated pr school students work like this:

Example, 200 vacancies.

School will allocate a % for affiliated students and non-affiliated.

Maybe 60% to affiliated and 40% to non-affiliated.

so, a max of 120 affiliated students will be admitted only.

Meaning, if there are 300 affliated students applied, only the top 120 will be accepted and the minimum T score among these 120 will be reflected as the COP.

I don't know what is the % allocation for affiliated students vs non-affillated students currently in SCGS esp now it turned IP. Last heard was they want to lower the % allocated for their affiliated students (probably with the purpose of not admitting students too far away from their mostly top performers, in the way of trying to 'narrow' the gap).

No, you're incorrect. For SCGS, there is a stated affliated COP of 220. So any and all students who meet the affliated COP of 220 will be given a place in SCGS secondary. So if the entire primary school cohort scores >220, every single one of them will be given a place. Any vacancies remaining will then be available for admission of non-affliates.

[Nebbermind]

phtthp:

wah, tough ! Jia lut for non affliated pri sch students.
like that ... will see a surge in demand seeking for transfer request(s) into affliated pri schools.

how can there be a surge??! It's not like the affiliated pri schools have unlimited vacanies.

[alng]

phtthp:

if one fine day, SCGS raise the COP for GCE \"O\" level track very high -
to almost as close as the COP for IP track, Yes - many SCGS affliated pri sch girls will be affected. Those who don't meet the high COP for \"O\" level track will be out!

Why would the school want to do that? They may as well remove the affiliation. That would be more \"clean cut\".

[hercules]

jtoh:

No, you're incorrect. For SCGS, there is a stated affliated COP of 220. So any and all students who meet the affliated COP of 220 will be given a place in SCGS secondary. So if the entire primary school cohort scores >220, every single one of them will be given a place. Any vacancies remaining will then be available for admission of non-affliates.

That was I can remember when I attended my DD's briefing in SCGS a few years back. Maybe I remember wrongly or maybe things have changed.

Vaguely remember the principal mentioning about there's a % reserved for non-affiliated students for 'diversity' purpose and this % to be increased so that overall 'standard' of the school can go up. That was before SCGS turned IP. She talked about having to take care of affiliated students as well as balancing other interests.

[alng]

Nebbermind:

I'm quite confident that the new IP schools have already done their homework and ensure that the 'promotion' of the pri students to sec remains about the same as previous years despite the new IP program.

I think you are right. I cannot speak for the other new IP schools with dual tracks but for the affiliated pri sch which my P6 dd is in now, based on the past stats of P6 students who qualified and ended up in the affiliated sec school, that number is still below the no of seats for O levels. So you are right to say that the promotion of the affiliated girls is not affected currently.

However, the numeric example I gave earlier is based on the assumption that all the affiliated students meet the affiliated COP and all of them will choose the affiliated sec school. If that happen one day, the demand will exceed supply for my dd school. The school principal has, in fact, mentioned this scenario in one of her briefings to parents.

[Chenonceau]

Thank you all Moms and Dads for the info on how to pick schools. It was very helpful indeed.

[linden2000]

phtthp:

wah, tough ! Jia lut for non affliated pri sch students.
like that ... will see a surge in demand seeking for transfer request(s) into affliated pri schools.

Er...why would there be a surge in transfer requests? Thought at primary 1 registration, the affiliation to sec schools is already one of the reasons why some primary schools are more popular?