WHO TO SEEK REDRESS FROM?

[Keroppi30]

Based on what you have written above it seems like your ex-company has covered the loopholes. It is difficult to fault them unless you are able to prove that they retrenched you in an unfairly manner.


I suggest you should look thru your employment contract for your rights and entitlements and work your case from there.

[ooptimizer]

I am sorry you are having some problems. I would like to input from my experience: it is very difficult to get any redress with what you have mentioned.


These things are very common in working life; it is very hard to prove favouritism, and as long as the manager or company did not commit any criminal act, it is quite impossible to get any redress.

I am sorry that my input is negative, but this is what I know from my experience. You will need to be strong to move on.

[Little M]

Hi Fionong,


Don't b discouraged. There r many other jobs waiting for u

[gumiho]

Hi All,


Thank you for your advise.

kiasimom,
All along I thought Tampines got only 1 MP. Our is Mr. Mah

Keroppi30,
According to MOM, we are required to work with the company for 3years and above in order to enjoy the Retrenchment Benefit.

Ooptimizer,
I agreed with you but I feel that 我不想死的不明不白.

Little M,
I am certainly discouraged as there are not a single job posting per day.

[tamarind]

ooptimizer:

These things are very common in working life; it is very hard to prove favouritism, and as long as the manager or company did not commit any criminal act, it is quite impossible to get any redress.

I also had the same experience. I was told to leave the company after I put in so much hard work for 9 years. I was notified about 10 months ahead of time. I managed to find a job and I left without the retrenchment benefit. It took me a long time to get over the feeling of being hurt, I suffered insomnia for many months.

In my case, it is definitely a case of favouritism. Yes it is hard to prove. I told the idiot manager : \"Hardworking people are asked to leave, while stupid and lazy people stay behind.\" Those were the exact words I said to him.

Fionong,
I totally understand how you feel. When I was asked to leave the company 2 years ago, my situation was even worst, because my hubby also did not have a job at that time. But like ooptimizer wrote, you need to be strong and move on.

What is most important now is to look for a new job, not only in your existing field, but in all fields. I changed to a different field and I am much more happier now, even though I had to take a pay cut.

Your manager sounds like a totally horrible person to work with, you should be happy that you are no longer working for her. I know that it is difficult to find a suitable job. 2 years ago I sent out countless letters without any replies. But the economy should be improving now, keep an open mind when you look for jobs. You may be able to find an even better job.

When you look for MP, do ask him to help you look for a new job. I heard that MPs are very helpful (and powerful) in this aspect.

[3Boys]

Pardon the straight talk and sorry if I once again strike a discordant tune…


fionong,
I think you might want to do a bit of personal reflection to see if indeed the employer had acted unfairly in this situation. If the company had to release staff due to a bad financial situation, are you surprised that they had chosen to release you over the other staff? How was your working relationship with your co-workers, did your frequent urgent leave create a bad situation for them? You mentioned that your colleague refused to give in on the annual leave request, was there some work tension?

In this kinds of situations, I think its not prudent to lay into any person or organisation without hearing both sides of the story. I said the same thing to my DW during a time she was having some issues with her boss, and she was far from happy with me, but one needs to be fair.

Having said that, it is of course your right to try and seek redress if you think that you have been unfairly treated, and MOM is probably your first port of call as is AWARE. Since both have declined to take up your case, it is some indication that perhaps there isn’t a very strong one to begin with.

Good luck!

[gumiho]

tamarind:

ooptimizer:

These things are very common in working life; it is very hard to prove favouritism, and as long as the manager or company did not commit any criminal act, it is quite impossible to get any redress.

I also had the same experience. I was told to leave the company after I put in so much hard work for 9 years. I was notified about 10 months ahead of time. I managed to find a job and I left without the retrenchment benefit. It took me a long time to get over the feeling of being hurt, I suffered insomnia for many months.

In my case, it is definitely a case of favouritism. Yes it is hard to prove. I told the idiot manager : \"Hardworking people are asked to leave, while stupid and lazy people stay behind.\" Those were the exact words I said to him.

Fionong,
I totally understand how you feel. When I was asked to leave the company 2 years ago, my situation was even worst, because my hubby also did not have a job at that time. But like ooptimizer wrote, you need to be strong and move on.

What is most important now is to look for a new job, not only in your existing field, but in all fields. I changed to a different field and I am much more happier now, even though I had to take a pay cut.

Your manager sounds like a totally horrible person to work with, you should be happy that you are no longer working for her. I know that it is difficult to find a suitable job. 2 years ago I sent out countless letters without any replies. But the economy should be improving now, keep an open mind when you look for jobs. You may be able to find an even better job.

When you look for MP, do ask him to help you look for a new job. I heard that MPs are very helpful (and powerful) in this aspect.

Thanks for your encouragement.
Apparently, I am working hard in job searching.
I managed to find out that \"Meet the People\" session at our District is on Every monday. Hope to see him next monday........

[gumiho]

3Boys:

Pardon the straight talk and sorry if I once again strike a discordant tune....


fionong,
I think you might want to do a bit of personal reflection to see if indeed the employer had acted unfairly in this situation. If the company had to release staff due to a bad financial situation, are you surprised that they had chosen to release you over the other staff? How was your working relationship with your co-workers, did your frequent urgent leave create a bad situation for them? You mentioned that your colleague refused to give in on the annual leave request, was there some work tension?

In this kinds of situations, I think its not prudent to lay into any person or organisation without hearing both sides of the story. I said the same thing to my DW during a time she was having some issues with her boss, and she was far from happy with me, but one needs to be fair.

Having said that, it is of course your right to try and seek redress if you think that you have been unfairly treated, and MOM is probably your first port of call as is AWARE. Since both have declined to take up your case, it is some indication that perhaps there isn't a very strong one to begin with.

Good luck!

As what others had mentioned in this thread, \"Favourtism\" is hard to prove. No matter how I defend myself, I will still be at the losing end.

Frankly speaking, I took UL only when something happen to my kids (eg. fell down in the toilet, down with fever....etc.) There once I took UL because my maid are down with fever and suspect with H1N1.

My manager know it deep inside her heart that she favour my colleague more than the others, our sales personnel told her before.

As what I had mentioned, MOM stated on the net that we are required to work with the company for 3years and above in order to enjoy the Retrenchment Benefit. Hence, there are no ways which they will help me with the Retrenchment Benefit.

AWARE did not decline to help me but told me to seek legal advise.

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We generally encourage people to make a formal complaint at MOM. WE are currently in the process of re-visiting this issue and raising them to the various MP’s, as we are still seeing unfair dismissal come up quite regularly. We have a legal clinic once a month and you can book into this through our Helpline 1800 774 5935 (3-9.30pm).
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[tamarind]

fionong:

As what others had mentioned in this thread, \"Favourtism\" is hard to prove. No matter how I defend myself, I will still be at the losing end.

That's right. Honestly, there is nothing much you can do to your ex-company now. The way to get back at them, is to find a better job and live a better life than before.

[Keroppi30]

fionong:

Keroppi30,
According to MOM, we are required to work with the company for 3years and above in order to enjoy the Retrenchment Benefit.

Hi fionong,

I wasn’t asking you to seek for retrenchment benefits, from what you have written it does not seem that your Company has short-changed you in terms of your leave and other compensation. MOM regulations not cover majority of the people whose basic salary are above S$1,600 (if I remember correctly). So if your employment contract states that you are only entitled to 1 month’s notice in the event of termination I believe that will prevail even if you have worked with the Company for more than 3 years.

I wish you all the best in your job search.