GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection

[Melodies]

One of friend’s ds was struggling n just scored 70- 75% for his p4-p5 sa1 gep n he is poor in Chinese. I advised the mother to sign his up for chinese tuition to improve the overall mark. After 1yr of 2 tuition in Chinese, he scored bat 83% in p6 sa1 n got co offer already.

[Nebbermind]

Melodies:

One of friend's dswas struggling n just scored 70- 75% for his p4-p5 sa1 gep n he is poor in Chinese. I advised the mother to sign his up for chinese tuition to improve the overall mark. After 1yr of 2 tuition in Chinese, he scored bat 83%.

Thta's why they have the baseline system in GEP...can't just say they are struggling coz they score low in %.

[Melodies]

O then how did u explain that the r students alreat started to score high 80 n low 90 since day 1 in p4?

Nebbermind:

Actually for GEP, I feel the main gist is that if the child needs to be very disciplined and have a higher level of maturity, he will more likely to do better. AT P4, most don't possess this, especially for the boys. They hate sitting down and doing serious writing which is required for SS and some other projects. They hate filing their notes/worksheets!
They rather do something which they can see an end to....like solving math problems, and NOT doing draft after draft after draft of some proj.

That's why many of them only started to enjoy at the latter part of P5 when most heavy proj would have come to an end. Also, by then they have gained maturity thru the earlier part of the training.

Juz my 2c.

[3Boys]

Such a storm over nothing. I can’t see how GEP selection test prep can prepare one for GEP, when the GEP program has little to do with the selection test. They are not sitting around in class all day looking at anagrams, they are actually getting into project work.

[Freshmint]

Lock:

I hv 2 classic examples. My DS (p3) can understand P5 Maths concept AFTER I explained to him, whereas my niece when at P3 could figure out the solution to P5 Maths questions ON HER OWN. No prize for guessing who is the gifted one here.

DS has high ability n went through Rd 1 GEP, not sure if will get thru Rd 2. Niece got into GEP program. She does not hv tuition, not even CL. Everything learn from tr, books n on her own.

My point is that sometimes parents mistake high ability as gifted. When I compare my DS n my niece, it's v clear that my boy just has high ability n if got selected into GEP will definitely struggle with or w/o prep.

IMO, prep can only bring the kid to a distance but can't help him all the way. In the end, it has to be the inherent ability that will see the kid through.

You niece might belong to the top 1-2% of the GEP cohort. The rest would be more or less like your DS. Just my 2 cents.

[Lock]

Freshmint:

Lock:

I hv 2 classic examples. My DS (p3) can understand P5 Maths concept AFTER I explained to him, whereas my niece when at P3 could figure out the solution to P5 Maths questions ON HER OWN. No prize for guessing who is the gifted one here.

DS has high ability n went through Rd 1 GEP, not sure if will get thru Rd 2. Niece got into GEP program. She does not hv tuition, not even CL. Everything learn from tr, books n on her own.

My point is that sometimes parents mistake high ability as gifted. When I compare my DS n my niece, it's v clear that my boy just has high ability n if got selected into GEP will definitely struggle with or w/o prep.

IMO, prep can only bring the kid to a distance but can't help him all the way. In the end, it has to be the inherent ability that will see the kid through.

I would think my niece is the 500 geppers and my DS the 3500 wannabes.

You niece might belong to the top 1-2% of the GEP cohort. The rest would be more or less like your DS. Just my 2 cents.

[Nebbermind]

Melodies:

O then how did u explain that the r students alreat started to score high 80 n low 90 since day 1 in p4?

There will always be some who are smart as well as very conscientious when it comes to schoolwork. But many are smart but still very playful and not very driven.

[Freshmint]

Lock:

Freshmint:

[quote=\"Lock\"]I hv 2 classic examples. My DS (p3) can understand P5 Maths concept AFTER I explained to him, whereas my niece when at P3 could figure out the solution to P5 Maths questions ON HER OWN. No prize for guessing who is the gifted one here.

DS has high ability n went through Rd 1 GEP, not sure if will get thru Rd 2. Niece got into GEP program. She does not hv tuition, not even CL. Everything learn from tr, books n on her own.

My point is that sometimes parents mistake high ability as gifted. When I compare my DS n my niece, it's v clear that my boy just has high ability n if got selected into GEP will definitely struggle with or w/o prep.

IMO, prep can only bring the kid to a distance but can't help him all the way. In the end, it has to be the inherent ability that will see the kid through.

You niece might belong to the top 1-2% of the GEP cohort. The rest would be more or less like your DS. Just my 2 cents.

I would think my niece is the 500 geppers and my DS the 3500 wannabes. :)[/quote]You have very a high opinion of the system and kids. The really gifted ones will have no worries. But the rest would probably have to depend on their luck for the remaining 98% chances. As someone pointed out, there's not cutoff point. Just the top 500 from the 4000 who did well.

[Sun_2010]

3Boys:

Such a storm over nothing. I can't see how GEP selection test prep can prepare one for GEP, when the GEP program has little to do with the selection test. They are not sitting around in class all day looking at anagrams, they are actually getting into project work.

:goodpost:

[Nebbermind]

Sun_2010:

3Boys:

Such a storm over nothing. I can't see how GEP selection test prep can prepare one for GEP, when the GEP program has little to do with the selection test. They are not sitting around in class all day looking at anagrams, they are actually getting into project work.

:goodpost:

Yeah! People do get confused between getting into GEP and being in GEP.

And also, while there will be geniuses in GEP, not all tagged 'gifted' are genius.
If your kid is a genius, then good for you. If not, it doesn't mean he or she is less deserving, esp those without prep.

PEACE!