GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection
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Of course, some helps are still better than no helps at all in Maisntreams. Whether GEP program is good route or not, that is another discussion altogether and I have my own reservation.
FQW:
Don't get angry over something I wish to clarify hor.Melodies:
For all you know, you have small class-size in GEP, good teaching materials in GEP and teacher can have close-coaching in GEP, Aren't these the helps that the GEPpers received. :? Even without any parental helps, GEP teachers and GEP branch will provide help to those GEPpers all the time. All these helps/benefits that GEPpers are getting will definitely help them to perform. In fact, these will help the mainstreamers to perform as well provided all these helps/benefits are equally provided to mainstreamers.
I tot you posted just a couple of pages before that you don't buy the idea that GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place [see red below]. That got me - and apparently some other forummers - all confused as you seem to be saying diff things above. :scratchhead:Melodies:
BTW, I do not even buy in the idea of GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place. I have seen some 'products' of the GEP before and I know what to expect from them.
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Melodies:
No, not for composition afaik.You mean the teacher marked the composition and provide a detailed comments and suggestion to improve and also marking draft 1, 2, 3 type of marking are not considered \" close-coaching\" in GEP . In mainstream, the teacher just provides the mark with 'nothing' literally.
Nebbermind:
I'm not aware any 'close coaching' in GEP.
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Lucky you!!!
Freshmint:
If you mean to say mainstream in all schools including P3, i have to voice my disagreement. Teacher in my ds school does more than just providing a mark.[/quote]Melodies:
You mean the teacher marked the composition and provide a detailed comments and suggestion to improve and also marking draft 1, 2, 3 type of marking are not considered \" close-coaching\" in GEP . In mainstream, the teacher just provides the mark with 'nothing' literally.
[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]I'm not aware any 'close coaching' in GEP. -
Prior to 1983, there was no GEP programme. So there were always brilliant kids out there who were never 'discovered' and 'sayanged' with small class sizes and appropriate material. So what?? Cream floats to the top--usually-- with or without special programmes to cater to their intellectual capacities. Like someone here observed, they won't be lost to society.
My DH was one of the handful of pioneers who rejected the offer to enter the programme. Today... decent job... no tattoo. Once in a while, we debate if he would be more successful now if he had gone through four years of GEP education. He still thinks it was the right choice, though he has not quite floated to the top.
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Oops! ur ds's GEP school don't have!
Nebbermind:
No, not for composition afaik.[/quote]Melodies:
You mean the teacher marked the composition and provide a detailed comments and suggestion to improve and also marking draft 1, 2, 3 type of marking are not considered \" close-coaching\" in GEP . In mainstream, the teacher just provides the mark with 'nothing' literally.
[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]I'm not aware any 'close coaching' in GEP. -
Melodies:
[/quote]So what you're saying is: \"Not sure GEP is good ornot, but still beats mainstream programme hands down lah.\" My interpretation correct ornot?Of course, some helps are still better than no helps at all in Maisntreams. Whether GEP program is good route or not, that is another discussion altogether and I have my own reservation.
Don't get angry over something I wish to clarify hor.FQW:
[quote=\"Melodies\"]For all you know, you have small class-size in GEP, good teaching materials in GEP and teacher can have close-coaching in GEP, Aren't these the helps that the GEPpers received. :? Even without any parental helps, GEP teachers and GEP branch will provide help to those GEPpers all the time. All these helps/benefits that GEPpers are getting will definitely help them to perform. In fact, these will help the mainstreamers to perform as well provided all these helps/benefits are equally provided to mainstreamers.
I tot you posted just a couple of pages before that you don't buy the idea that GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place [see red below]. That got me - and apparently some other forummers - all confused as you seem to be saying diff things above. :scratchhead:Melodies:
BTW, I do not even buy in the idea of GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place. I have seen some 'products' of the GEP before and I know what to expect from them.
My ds confirm mainstreamer ... Now you made me worried he won't get good education. :sad: -
I do agree that we had a better educational system in 70s/80s than now. All teaching materials are in the textbooks and good teachers around. We just need to study the textbook, no internet, no exta materials and schools tested what you had learnt in the exams. There are less well-off families who are able to send their kids for tuition or enrichment. Most of the students are on the same level playing field.
Those were the day which you can't use to compare the current situation now as they are no longer valid now.CayennePepper:
Prior to 1983, there was no GEP programme. So there were always brilliant kids out there who were never 'discovered' and 'sayanged' with small class sizes and appropriate material. So what?? Cream floats to the top--usually-- with or without special programmes to cater to their intellectual capacities. Like someone here observed, they won't be lost to society.
My DH was one of the handful of pioneers who rejected the offer to enter the programme. Today... decent job... no tattoo. Once in a while, we debate if he would be more successful now if he had gone through four years of GEP education. He still thinks it was the right choice, though he has not quite floated to the top. -
FQW:
There will always be exceptions and surprises!
My ds confirm mainstreamer ... Now you made me worried he won't get good education. :sad: -
No, this is not what I said. I said that MOE provided 'helps/benefits' to GEP program but did not extend these 'helps/benefits' to mainstreams and I think these are good to mainstreamers. It has nothing to do whether I think the current GEP program is a good route or not! I'm supper 'kiasu' and wanted to have a much better alternative route (based on my standard) for my dc and yet get to enjoy childhood.
FQW:
So what you're saying is: \"Not sure GEP is good ornot, but still beats mainstream programme hands down lah.\" My interpretation correct ornot?
My ds confirm mainstreamer ... Now you made me worried he won't get good education. :sad: -
I hear many discordant melodies.
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