Population woes

[3Boys]

mum_sugoku:

http://www.usp.nus.edu.sg/aboutusp/newsroom/2012/20120314-BT-Singapore%20Must%20Achieve%20More%20with%20Less.pdf

Thank you for re-posting, read it when it first came out and it makes a lot of sense. But you do have to read it in its entirety. I don't believe it says that population growth CANNOT be part of the strategy, only that it clearly cannot be the ONLY strategy, which I completely agree with. But it is not the same as shielding our workforce from competition, which is the thrust of a lot of negativity for foreign workers here.

There is another great article in the papers today about productivity in the workforce actually.

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

The value of a robust debate becomes clear. Through the interchange it's becomes obvious where the starting positions of protagonists in this debate is. It may be the case that one had already decided to vote for the opposition, and constructs an implacable, if flawed argument to support that decision. In which case, further discussion would be futile. But it is important to have reached that point of understanding.

In all fairness.. I would want the ruling party to remain in power.. as mentioned earlier.

However, I would not want a situation of absolute power. That's my personal view.. I'm not sure about others..

Even thou the policies may not be extra ordinary.. generally.. they are \"not too bad\" or \"ok\".

But I would want checks and balances in place.. together with transparency and accountability..

Alright, fair enough.

[3Boys]

limlim:

Funz:

I am not asking them to implement anything. I am saying they have not even addressed any of the key issues aside from criticising the existing policies.

They are not even in the position to implement anything.. and anything they suggest are probably thrown out of the window.

Of coz, it fine that many do not want to take unnecessary risk by letting them do what they want.. but at least, let's not say that they can only criticise but not do anything bcoz they are not able to do anything at all. In the first place, they may not even have ALL the information to suggest/develop/plan anything concrete.

Fair also.

[Funz]

limlim:

Funz:

I am not asking them to implement anything. I am saying they have not even addressed any of the key issues aside from criticising the existing policies.

They are not even in the position to implement anything.. and anything they suggest are probably thrown out of the window.

Of coz, it fine that many do not want to take unnecessary risk by letting them do what they want.. but at least, let's not say that they can only criticise but not do anything bcoz they are not able to do anything at all. In the first place, they may not even have ALL the information to suggest/develop/plan anything concrete.

Agree lah. But I can also say that since they do not have all the information, why be so quick to criticise? :siam:

[verykiasumummy]

how have the population issue now becoming a change of garment issue?


i was reading thru the history and…

i mean, the population issue is not something new, and it doesnt just happen in sg… the only issue is that for any campaign or movement made by the garment is supported by people or not…

many says its as though slapping their own faces when 20yrs ago, stopped ppl from having more than 2 children and now encouraging ppl to have more and more… many ppl use this as a mocking matter of the garment’s decision back then…

however, looking back, whether a national movement is successful or not, it depends on the ppl, not entirely the garment. if there are no population issues, i’m sure the NCs rate will decrease right?

[3Boys]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-21/pan-pacific-says-staff-shortage-threat-to-hotels-southeast-asia#r=bloomberg


Excerpted

‘Huge Outflux’
Pan Pacific, controlled by Singapore billionaire Wee Cho Yaw’s UOL Group Ltd. (UOL), was unchanged at S$2.26 at the close in Singapore on Oct. 19. The stock has advanced 22 percent this year and the parent company has gained 45 percent, surpassing the 15 percent increase in Singapore’s Straits Times Index. (FSSTI)

Manila sees a “huge outflux of people” for jobs overseas, Imbardelli said. In Bali, independent hotels and villas compete with established chains for workers, while Myanmar’s nascent travel market lacks experienced employees, he said.

Pan Pacific owns about 30 hotels, resorts and serviced apartments globally. In Singapore, where the group has eight properties including those under its Park Royal brand, the government’s tightening of rules on foreign workers has hurt the industry’s ability to hire more workers, Imbardelli said.

More Expensive
The island city has made it more expensive for companies to hire overseas workers by raising levies, and in the past year it has increased salary thresholds and required better educational qualifications for some categories of foreigners.

After a recent S$100 million refurbishment, Pan Pacific Singapore had to open restaurants and bars in stages due to a lack of staff, Imbardelli said.

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

[verykiasumummy]

3Boys:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-21/pan-pacific-says-staff-shortage-threat-to-hotels-southeast-asia#r=bloomberg


Excerpted

‘Huge Outflux’
Pan Pacific, controlled by Singapore billionaire Wee Cho Yaw’s UOL Group Ltd. (UOL), was unchanged at S$2.26 at the close in Singapore on Oct. 19. The stock has advanced 22 percent this year and the parent company has gained 45 percent, surpassing the 15 percent increase in Singapore’s Straits Times Index. (FSSTI)

Manila sees a “huge outflux of people” for jobs overseas, Imbardelli said. In Bali, independent hotels and villas compete with established chains for workers, while Myanmar’s nascent travel market lacks experienced employees, he said.

Pan Pacific owns about 30 hotels, resorts and serviced apartments globally. In Singapore, where the group has eight properties including those under its Park Royal brand, the government’s tightening of rules on foreign workers has hurt the industry’s ability to hire more workers, Imbardelli said.

More Expensive
The island city has made it more expensive for companies to hire overseas workers by raising levies, and in the past year it has increased salary thresholds and required better educational qualifications for some categories of foreigners.

After a recent S$100 million refurbishment, Pan Pacific Singapore had to open restaurants and bars in stages due to a lack of staff, Imbardelli said.

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

good moral... supported...

[vlim]

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

[verykiasumummy]

vlim:

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

they are jokers...

[zarahsmom]

verykiasumummy:

vlim:

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

they are jokers...

self-depreciating humuor from a pinoy here:

pinoy 1: singaporeans don like us..
pinoy 2: how did you kno?
pinoy 1: my mam said she will train her children how to wash dishes, do laundry, clean house and cook, so no need for domestic helpers..

:oops: (not funny i guess)

honestly, this is my dilemma too, I grew up not doing much housework (as my parents just wanted me to study study)..

I wanted my daughter to be independent (some of my friends have careers and very good at housework too)..