Population woes

[Funz]

limlim:

Funz:

I am not asking them to implement anything. I am saying they have not even addressed any of the key issues aside from criticising the existing policies.

They are not even in the position to implement anything.. and anything they suggest are probably thrown out of the window.

Of coz, it fine that many do not want to take unnecessary risk by letting them do what they want.. but at least, let's not say that they can only criticise but not do anything bcoz they are not able to do anything at all. In the first place, they may not even have ALL the information to suggest/develop/plan anything concrete.

Agree lah. But I can also say that since they do not have all the information, why be so quick to criticise? :siam:

[verykiasumummy]

how have the population issue now becoming a change of garment issue?


i was reading thru the history and…

i mean, the population issue is not something new, and it doesnt just happen in sg… the only issue is that for any campaign or movement made by the garment is supported by people or not…

many says its as though slapping their own faces when 20yrs ago, stopped ppl from having more than 2 children and now encouraging ppl to have more and more… many ppl use this as a mocking matter of the garment’s decision back then…

however, looking back, whether a national movement is successful or not, it depends on the ppl, not entirely the garment. if there are no population issues, i’m sure the NCs rate will decrease right?

[3Boys]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-21/pan-pacific-says-staff-shortage-threat-to-hotels-southeast-asia#r=bloomberg


Excerpted

‘Huge Outflux’
Pan Pacific, controlled by Singapore billionaire Wee Cho Yaw’s UOL Group Ltd. (UOL), was unchanged at S$2.26 at the close in Singapore on Oct. 19. The stock has advanced 22 percent this year and the parent company has gained 45 percent, surpassing the 15 percent increase in Singapore’s Straits Times Index. (FSSTI)

Manila sees a “huge outflux of people” for jobs overseas, Imbardelli said. In Bali, independent hotels and villas compete with established chains for workers, while Myanmar’s nascent travel market lacks experienced employees, he said.

Pan Pacific owns about 30 hotels, resorts and serviced apartments globally. In Singapore, where the group has eight properties including those under its Park Royal brand, the government’s tightening of rules on foreign workers has hurt the industry’s ability to hire more workers, Imbardelli said.

More Expensive
The island city has made it more expensive for companies to hire overseas workers by raising levies, and in the past year it has increased salary thresholds and required better educational qualifications for some categories of foreigners.

After a recent S$100 million refurbishment, Pan Pacific Singapore had to open restaurants and bars in stages due to a lack of staff, Imbardelli said.

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

[verykiasumummy]

3Boys:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-21/pan-pacific-says-staff-shortage-threat-to-hotels-southeast-asia#r=bloomberg


Excerpted

‘Huge Outflux’
Pan Pacific, controlled by Singapore billionaire Wee Cho Yaw’s UOL Group Ltd. (UOL), was unchanged at S$2.26 at the close in Singapore on Oct. 19. The stock has advanced 22 percent this year and the parent company has gained 45 percent, surpassing the 15 percent increase in Singapore’s Straits Times Index. (FSSTI)

Manila sees a “huge outflux of people” for jobs overseas, Imbardelli said. In Bali, independent hotels and villas compete with established chains for workers, while Myanmar’s nascent travel market lacks experienced employees, he said.

Pan Pacific owns about 30 hotels, resorts and serviced apartments globally. In Singapore, where the group has eight properties including those under its Park Royal brand, the government’s tightening of rules on foreign workers has hurt the industry’s ability to hire more workers, Imbardelli said.

More Expensive
The island city has made it more expensive for companies to hire overseas workers by raising levies, and in the past year it has increased salary thresholds and required better educational qualifications for some categories of foreigners.

After a recent S$100 million refurbishment, Pan Pacific Singapore had to open restaurants and bars in stages due to a lack of staff, Imbardelli said.

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

good moral... supported...

[vlim]

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

[verykiasumummy]

vlim:

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

they are jokers...

[zarahsmom]

verykiasumummy:

vlim:

Yesturday my dh told me a joke..and it goes like tt..


2 foreign indian glass cutters were talking to each other while resting in a park.
Indian A said,' you know, singaporean don't like us foreign workers to work here...and they are training their young ones to be glass cutters..'

Indian B replied,' how you know?'..

Indian A said,' becos i saw the children practising glass cutting thru computer games!...'
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:siam:

they are jokers...

self-depreciating humuor from a pinoy here:

pinoy 1: singaporeans don like us..
pinoy 2: how did you kno?
pinoy 1: my mam said she will train her children how to wash dishes, do laundry, clean house and cook, so no need for domestic helpers..

:oops: (not funny i guess)

honestly, this is my dilemma too, I grew up not doing much housework (as my parents just wanted me to study study)..

I wanted my daughter to be independent (some of my friends have careers and very good at housework too)..

[limlim]

3Boys:

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

Together with the congestion and maybe potential social instability..

I believe investors open hotels in Singapore not bcoz there are workers, but bcoz there are consumers and potential business opportunities..

As long as profitable opportunities exists, it will attract investment.

They'll work out a way to recruit the workers they need.

Profits may not be as high as if there is no controls.. but doesn't mean they can't survive or it is not profitable.

And.. No tourist visiting Singapore for holidays is going to stay in a hotel in Malaysia..

[cherryc]

limlim:

3Boys:

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

Together with the congestion and maybe potential social instability..

I believe investors open hotels in Singapore not bcoz there are workers, but bcoz there are consumers and potential business opportunities..

As long as profitable opportunities exists, it will attract investment.

They'll work out a way to recruit the workers they need.

Profits may not be as high as if there is no controls.. but doesn't mean they can't survive or it is not profitable.

And.. No tourist visiting Singapore for holidays is going to stay in a hotel in Malaysia..

Totally agree. I am quite confused with this foreign workers issue. To me they are invaluable as they help us in so many ways like construction, service industry, domestic helpers or any industry where we have shortage of human resource. These people are working temporarily in Singapore. I am just more puzzled with the sudden influx who can buy HDBs (which to many is the highest yield asset ) , attending primary schools, etc.

With proper planning, we will be able to strike a balance. There is no point going from one extreme to another extreme to prove the point.

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

Moral of the story? If we don't want the foreign workers, they will just head elsewhere, and boost the businesses of a competing country.

Together with the congestion and maybe potential social instability..

I believe investors open hotels in Singapore not bcoz there are workers, but bcoz there are consumers and potential business opportunities..

As long as profitable opportunities exists, it will attract investment.

They'll work out a way to recruit the workers they need.

Profits may not be as high as if there is no controls.. but doesn't mean they can't survive or it is not profitable.

And.. No tourist visiting Singapore for holidays is going to stay in a hotel in Malaysia..

I.e. to businesses, I don't care how you do it, as long as you don't trample on my soft fragile toes. Don't be so profitable, survive can already.

And at the point when it becomes unprofitable, then what? Get lost?

You keep saying as long as there are profitable opportunities, but you can't cite any. If you keep squeezing businesses the way you propose, won't those profitable opportunities start to diminish? Industries are co-supportive, if those industries for which you have little regard for, they start to vanish, then how does the hotel industry thrive? Hotel stay is not just tourism, it's business meetings, MICE.

Ridiculous.