PSLE leave: For or Against?
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kwcllf:
By endorsing PSLE as a valid and approved reason to take leave, is as good as recognizing the \"Need\" for parents to be around.For any companies which feel threatened by OCBC's PSLE Leave, perhaps they must look at their own \"shortcomings\". Why must it be \"feared\"?
If OCBC feels it can mangage the situation, then to each its own. We shouldn't blame OCBC for responding to the system that brought about it in the first place.
By the way, I don't think OCBC ANNOUNCED that \"parents must be around that period\". Also, as parents, to each his/her own. If they feel it is required to be around, so be it. If not, so be it as well. If I don't take leave during PSLE time and other parents take leave, I don't see the reason why I should feel \"bad\". As I have mentioned before, and I agree with JT on this point, that we should spend time with our children at other times as well besides PSLE time. But if there is a need to spend more time with the children during PSLE period, it is at the perogative of each parents. This may be for last minute coaching, provide moral support, etc......whatever it is, different people have different needs.
And, the fear is not by other companies.. I guess you're mistaken on that. The \"fear\", is fear for PSLE. People are telling parents that PSLE needs not be fearful.. but OCBC's move at formalizing \"PSLE leave\" just does the opposite of it. -
limlim:
This is interesting.
The one with less support but nevertheless made it, will have a resilient and tough body that is better capable of dealing with crisis or challenges later one.janet_lee88:
\"The interesting reply was yes, that is one aspect of it, but the other aspect is the running track is not a smooth running track, it has got bumps and stones and grass on it. That means the one with the thicker running shoe will automatically perform better because he or she is better equipped. That is the sense people are getting.\"
The problem are those who \"made it\" with the help of better support and readily available resources..
If they are put into fast track or groomed to be leaders..
can they perform \"on their own\"?
Kids who are extensively groomed and do very well at PSLE can take the IP route...but at secondary 1, can these kids manage ? I had 2 friends whose kids did very well and took the IP route...realized that it is different from the tried-and-tested O level route and struggling now. -
limlim:
Just wondering why becos just ONE organisation implement the policy, parents feel compelled to be around during PSLE time. It is not as if OCBC has started a trend to do so. Perhaps, those who feel compelled to follow suit to take leave are succumbing to their own insecurity.
By endorsing PSLE as a valid and approved reason to take leave, is as good as recognizing the \"Need\" for parents to be around.kwcllf:
For any companies which feel threatened by OCBC's PSLE Leave, perhaps they must look at their own \"shortcomings\". Why must it be \"feared\"?
If OCBC feels it can mangage the situation, then to each its own. We shouldn't blame OCBC for responding to the system that brought about it in the first place.
By the way, I don't think OCBC ANNOUNCED that \"parents must be around that period\". Also, as parents, to each his/her own. If they feel it is required to be around, so be it. If not, so be it as well. If I don't take leave during PSLE time and other parents take leave, I don't see the reason why I should feel \"bad\". As I have mentioned before, and I agree with JT on this point, that we should spend time with our children at other times as well besides PSLE time. But if there is a need to spend more time with the children during PSLE period, it is at the perogative of each parents. This may be for last minute coaching, provide moral support, etc......whatever it is, different people have different needs.
And, the fear is not by other companies.. I guess you're mistaken on that. The \"fear\", is fear for PSLE. People are telling parents that PSLE needs not be fearful.. but OCBC's move at formalizing \"PSLE leave\" just does the opposite of it.
By the way, OCBC not only allowed PSLE Leave, but also Sabbaticals (with benefits retained) as it sees many of its employees requiring them. I think it should be applauded for giving its employees the fexibility to do so. Does one employee takes a Sabbatical and no-pay leave compelled others or put pressure on others to follow suit? I don't think so. Some may not be able to afford taking no-pay leave. So it is an indiviual decision.
In fact, if you read the ST forum (paper edition) today, some are so appreciative to have their parents around during PSLE and the sacrifices they undertake. Again, this is an individual choice. -
kwcllf:
Just wondering why becos just ONE organisation implement the policy, parents feel compelled to be around during PSLE time. It is not as if OCBC has started a trend to do so. Perhaps, those who feel compelled to follow suit to take leave are succumbing to their own insecurity.
By endorsing PSLE as a valid and approved reason to take leave, is as good as recognizing the \"Need\" for parents to be around.limlim:
[quote=\"kwcllf\"]For any companies which feel threatened by OCBC's PSLE Leave, perhaps they must look at their own \"shortcomings\". Why must it be \"feared\"?
If OCBC feels it can mangage the situation, then to each its own. We shouldn't blame OCBC for responding to the system that brought about it in the first place.
By the way, I don't think OCBC ANNOUNCED that \"parents must be around that period\". Also, as parents, to each his/her own. If they feel it is required to be around, so be it. If not, so be it as well. If I don't take leave during PSLE time and other parents take leave, I don't see the reason why I should feel \"bad\". As I have mentioned before, and I agree with JT on this point, that we should spend time with our children at other times as well besides PSLE time. But if there is a need to spend more time with the children during PSLE period, it is at the perogative of each parents. This may be for last minute coaching, provide moral support, etc......whatever it is, different people have different needs.
And, the fear is not by other companies.. I guess you're mistaken on that. The \"fear\", is fear for PSLE. People are telling parents that PSLE needs not be fearful.. but OCBC's move at formalizing \"PSLE leave\" just does the opposite of it.
By the way, OCBC not only allowed PSLE Leave, but also Sabbaticals (with benefits retained) as it sees many of its employees requiring them. I think it should be applauded for giving its employees the fexibility to do so. Does one employee takes a Sabbatical and no-pay leave compelled others or put pressure on others to follow suit? I don't think so. Some may not be able to afford taking no-pay leave. So it is an indiviual decision.
In fact, if you read the ST forum (paper edition) today, some are so appreciative to have their parents around during PSLE and the sacrifices they undertake. Again, this is an individual choice.[/quote] :udawoman: -
kwcllf:
As I have mentioned before, and I agree with JT on this point, that we should spend time with our children at other times as well besides PSLE time. But if there is a need to spend more time with the children during PSLE period, it is at the perogative of each parents. This may be for last minute coaching, provide moral support, etc......whatever it is, different people have different needs.
But it should not be formalised, or else, with all due respect to parents with PSLE kids, it is but one thing that people take leave for, so there a hundred other reasons why people feel their leave is important, including unmarried staff without children......
.....and labelling is the first step to formalisation. Leave during exam time IS important, I have already agreed to that so there is no need to keep beating a dead horse with forum letters, I have never had an issue with that concept. BUT, I have a big issue with granting PSLE leave special priority.
JT is therefore taking issue with the labelling, and semi-formalisation of it, and therefore OCBC seems targeted. No flaw in that logic.
Its heartening to see that in a KSP forum that even over a quarter of parents vote against the idea. Singapore society is not JUST about parents with school-going kids, any philosophies and principles we adopt must take into account and be fair to ALL stakeholders. You go to a different forum like HWZ and put up the same poll, I betcha you get a different result.
You ask why OCBC is targeted, it's because they represent a type of philosophy that, although expands the space for PSLE parents, narrows the space for other constituencies. You have to look at the totality of what it represents, and if you disagree with the principle (like JT), then you speak out and nail it straightaway.
limlim, you tell me, since you are getting more traction with your arguments, this make sense to you? -
kwcllf, I borrow your quote:
JT mentioned that she tries to schedule her work so that she don't need to travel around her children's PSLE period.........But Why? Isn't the answer obvious. This is just another form of support that they are providing their children
OCBC recognized that PSLE is a BIG thing in S'pore bcos parents wouldn't mind sitting for it if they can...by O/A levels, we know we are kinda out of bounds. -
janet_lee88:
Hi,kwcllf, I borrow your quote:
JT mentioned that she tries to schedule her work so that she don't need to travel around her children's PSLE period.........But Why? Isn't the answer obvious. This is just another form of support that they are providing their children
OCBC recognized that PSLE is a BIG thing in S'pore bcos parents wouldn't mind sitting for it if they can...by O/A levels, we know we are kinda out of bounds.
What you have said may be very True to some parents. But, ultimately, we have to let go eventually. PSLE is the First major national exam our kids are taking and if parents are there to provide whatever necessary support, why not?
I have a friend who graduated from NTU from Electrical Engineering donkey years ago and his DS took his \"O\" levels last year and did very well. He is based in China currently but when he is back in Singapore, he still coaches his DS in Science.
As parents, I think we will try to do whatever is best for our DC.........of course, there will be many different approaches to different situations. -
As parents, we try to do whatever we can…but now primary school syllabus seems to be out of bounds for many. If we cannot coach, then we provide other forms of support…like moral support.
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janet_lee88:
As parents, we try to do whatever we can...but now primary school syllabus seems to be out of bounds for many. If we cannot coach, then we provide other forms of support...like moral support.
Totally Argeed. :snuggles: -
kwcllf:
Exactly. And OCBC is fueling that insecurity, or \"FEAR\".
Just wondering why becos just ONE organisation implement the policy, parents feel compelled to be around during PSLE time. It is not as if OCBC has started a trend to do so. Perhaps, those who feel compelled to follow suit to take leave are succumbing to their own insecurity.limlim:
By endorsing PSLE as a valid and approved reason to take leave, is as good as recognizing the \"Need\" for parents to be around.
And, the fear is not by other companies.. I guess you're mistaken on that. The \"fear\", is fear for PSLE. People are telling parents that PSLE needs not be fearful.. but OCBC's move at formalizing \"PSLE leave\" just does the opposite of it.
So, do you not understand or acknowledge JT's comment on fueling fear now?
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