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      specialboymum
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      nugget:
      mashy:

      Breaking news


      http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/parents-special-needs-children-get-more-guidance-20121102


      Thats good news. I hope there will be more awareness to help to integrate special needs kids in mainstream. Special needs children are still very stigmatized in the society.

      That is my thought too..
      I felt that the approach for the support of special need education should be \"integrative\" and not \"segregative\" . More support should be given to the AED in schools to better help the special needs in mainstream.

      Well, it is true that having a special school with curriculum that tailor made to our special kids will allow them to learn and strive better, however, if we hope they can be independent and earn decent living on their own, they will have to interact with others. Housing them in the same building and not giving them the chance to interact with the NTs will not help.
      Having special needs kids in the same environment isn't a bad thing for NTs too, they will naturally learn to accept the special needs kids as their peers, hence when they grow up, the social stigma we are seeing now will likely not exist. I know there is some existing program which allows children from mainstream school to visit special schools, but that is so \"orchestrated\". Honestly, I don't know how a 2 hours visit will help the NT child to understand, empathize and fully accept somebody different from them...

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        mashy
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        specialboymum:
        nugget:

        [quote=\"mashy\"]Breaking news


        http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/parents-special-needs-children-get-more-guidance-20121102


        Thats good news. I hope there will be more awareness to help to integrate special needs kids in mainstream. Special needs children are still very stigmatized in the society.

        That is my thought too..
        I felt that the approach for the support of special need education should be \"integrative\" and not \"segregative\" . More support should be given to the AED in schools to better help the special needs in mainstream.

        Well, it is true that having a special school with curriculum that tailor made to our special kids will allow them to learn and strive better, however, if we hope they can be independent and earn decent living on their own, they will have to interact with others. Housing them in the same building and not giving them the chance to interact with the NTs will not help.
        Having special needs kids in the same environment isn't a bad thing for NTs too, they will naturally learn to accept the special needs kids as their peers, hence when they grow up, the social stigma we are seeing now will likely not exist. I know there is some existing program which allows children from mainstream school to visit special schools, but that is so \"orchestrated\". Honestly, I don't know how a 2 hours visit will help the NT child to understand, empathize and fully accept somebody different from them...[/quote]Actually Townsville and pathlight have an 'exchange Prog'. The kids from pathlight will attend some classes in Townsville with the other NT kids. That's what I heard from a parent whose kids are in Townsville.

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          Double E
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          specialboymum:
          nugget:

          [quote=\"mashy\"]Breaking news


          http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/parents-special-needs-children-get-more-guidance-20121102


          Thats good news. I hope there will be more awareness to help to integrate special needs kids in mainstream. Special needs children are still very stigmatized in the society.

          That is my thought too..
          I felt that the approach for the support of special need education should be \"integrative\" and not \"segregative\" . More support should be given to the AED in schools to better help the special needs in mainstream.

          Well, it is true that having a special school with curriculum that tailor made to our special kids will allow them to learn and strive better, however, if we hope they can be independent and earn decent living on their own, they will have to interact with others. Housing them in the same building and not giving them the chance to interact with the NTs will not help.
          Having special needs kids in the same environment isn't a bad thing for NTs too, they will naturally learn to accept the special needs kids as their peers, hence when they grow up, the social stigma we are seeing now will likely not exist. I know there is some existing program which allows children from mainstream school to visit special schools, but that is so \"orchestrated\". Honestly, I don't know how a 2 hours visit will help the NT child to understand, empathize and fully accept somebody different from them...[/quote]Totally agree. When I saw the headline of the article , I was excited. But after reading on, I am disappointed. The programme seems to be telling us parents to stop dreaming and be realistic, our special kids should go to special school and not mainstream and here..these are the reason why your kid is more suitable for special school.

          I think more should be done to integrate special needs kids to mainstream school. Like what you have suggested, more AED teachers or all mainstream teachers to go through basic special needs training etc.

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            nugget
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            I think they are trying to put in place a program to screen our kids to get them into special school like pathlight or sped school.


            I learnt that there are some children who are really special needs like having certain type of developmental delay but the parents just refuse to let them seek help. So these kids are now still in mainstream school. A teacher friend told me, these parents refuses to acknowledge the kid needs help, the teacher also cant do anything but to continue to keep them in school.

            Hence I think thats why the board is set up to counsel and help those kids. But then… are there enough sped school for our kids or not? Like pathlight, its so damn hard to get in with long waiting list…

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              mashy
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              nugget:
              I think they are trying to put in place a program to screen our kids to get them into special school like pathlight or sped school.


              I learnt that there are some children who are really special needs like having certain type of developmental delay but the parents just refuse to let them seek help. So these kids are now still in mainstream school. A teacher friend told me, these parents refuses to acknowledge the kid needs help, the teacher also cant do anything but to continue to keep them in school.

              Hence I think thats why the board is set up to counsel and help those kids. But then.. are there enough sped school for our kids or not? Like pathlight, its so damn hard to get in with long waiting list...
              I heard from my friend, her Dd's classmate has Down syndrome. That gal couldn't cope but still in mainstream gal's school. The parents even wanna retain her for a yr but I doubt it will make any difference.

              My boy's classmate who kicked him is also suspected to be special needs but his parents refused to get him diagnosed. They are very defensive and rude to the teacher. That boy is pretty violent. So there are many out there who are still in denial and insist on putting their kids thru mainstream and not getting help.

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                nugget
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                mashy:


                I heard from my friend, her Dd's classmate has Down syndrome. That gal couldn't cope but still in mainstream gal's school. The parents even wanna retain her for a yr but I doubt it will make any difference.

                My boy's classmate who kicked him is also suspected to be special needs but his parents refused to get him diagnosed. They are very defensive and rude to the teacher. That boy is pretty violent. So there are many out there who are still in denial and insist on putting their kids thru mainstream and not getting help.

                Ya I agree. I spoke to one principal before as well. They have a DS girl in their school. At least our educational system doesn't not kick us out. I want to put my boy in mainstream to let him try out first.

                They shld build more sped school. They know there are special needs children in the school.. yet the sped schools in SG is only a handful.

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                  Double E
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                  Btw, do your kids feel embarrassed?


                  Recently my boy doesn’t want me to see his poop. I tried to peep inside the toilet bowl to check if he pooped, he will push me away and tell me not to see.

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                    mashy
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                    Double E:
                    Btw, do your kids feel embarrassed?


                    Recently my boy doesn't want me to see his poop. I tried to peep inside the toilet bowl to check if he pooped, he will push me away and tell me not to see.
                    Yes, frequently. He now even cries when he does badly for spelling practice.

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                      helplessmum3
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                      jme:
                      Helplessmum


                      http://www.cel.sg/Resources_FAQs_Integrated-Child-Care-Programme.aspx

                      But hearsay the waiting period is long. I am not sure. I went to three different private cc to check. St Gerard at Guillemard, divinity at bishan n kids4kits at telok kurau.

                      thanks,but the list here does not have the name u mentioned, so strange.
                      http://www.cel.sg/uploads/ICCP%20Service%20Matrix_Jul%202012.pdf

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                        jme
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                        Helplessmum, the 3 cc I mentioned r privately run. the iccp fees is cheaper than the ones I have seen. I do not know how iccp runs but I can share how my son’s cc works. His class has 4asd kids n 6 nt kids. They (asd and nt) attend english, chinese, math n art lesson together. There will be 2 sessions of group ot n 1 session of group st every week. Each session is 30 mins. The asd kids will also have one on one session for 45mins of teaching everyday. This 45mins daily is not ot or st. More like a special needs teacher teaching the child according to the child’s ability. All these therapies r included in the school fees. But I will have to pay extra if I want one on one ot n st. They have swimming lessons but then parents will have to pay too.

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