GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection
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chlobe:
there are so many views...confuse me further. i spoke to a nyps teacher, the teacher encouraged my dd to go for gep.Hi all,
My dd has also been selected for GEP... So far, at least a couple of friends have told me to consider not going for it. Surprisingly some of them are current MOE teachers.... Seems like they don't really like the program and how the kids are churned out. Any views?
sorry..1 more qn, may sound very hypothetical. I am sure dd will score very well for PSLE if she remains in mainstream, but if she goes for gep, is it possible she may not score as well? i dont want her to get penalized for doing something more challenging, sound very narrow-minded? Maybe I am greedy, I hope by joining gep, she is able to learn more (that is not psle related) and at the same time score (for psle) as well as if she stayed in mainstream. I have never expected gep to make her score any higher (than if she remain in mainstream). Hope i am talking sense. -
porcupine12trade:
Personally I don't agree that GEP students will not score well in PSLE. Does not getting Top scholar = not score well? If so, then yes GEPpers might not do well as most of them just don't put in as much effort as the mainstreamers when it comes to PSLE since majority of them already got COs from their dream schools. Despite that, majority still scores 250 & above for PSLE.
there are so many views...confuse me further. i spoke to a nyps teacher, the teacher encouraged my dd to go for gep.chlobe:
Hi all,
My dd has also been selected for GEP... So far, at least a couple of friends have told me to consider not going for it. Surprisingly some of them are current MOE teachers.... Seems like they don't really like the program and how the kids are churned out. Any views?
sorry..1 more qn, may sound very hypothetical. I am sure dd will score very well for PSLE if she remains in mainstream, but if she goes for gep, is it possible she may not score as well? i dont want her to get penalized for doing something more challenging, sound very narrow-minded? Maybe I am greedy, I hope by joining gep, she is able to learn more (that is not psle related) and at the same time score (for psle) as well as if she stayed in mainstream. I have never expected gep to make her score any higher (than if she remain in mainstream). Hope i am talking sense. -
porcupine12trade:
What's your definition of 'score very well'? There are many GEP students in the top students listed published by MOE yearly. These are students who attained the highest PSLE scores in the country. There are GEP students who score >280, many who score >270 and >260. Those who score <250 are few and far between. The girl who scored 294 (the highest PSLE score so far) was from GEP.
there are so many views...confuse me further. i spoke to a nyps teacher, the teacher encouraged my dd to go for gep.
sorry..1 more qn, may sound very hypothetical. I am sure dd will score very well for PSLE if she remains in mainstream, but if she goes for gep, is it possible she may not score as well? i dont want her to get penalized for doing something more challenging, sound very narrow-minded? Maybe I am greedy, I hope by joining gep, she is able to learn more (that is not psle related) and at the same time score (for psle) as well as if she stayed in mainstream. I have never expected gep to make her score any higher (than if she remain in mainstream). Hope i am talking sense. -
You know, I have been reading quietly over the last week. Not just this thread but also other GEP threads. Also spoke to a few people who have been through the same thing. Like many of you, I have to make a choice. Or rather, allow my daughter to make her choice. By tomorrow!
Often, it is the adults who complicate the choice.
I think it is fairly clear that GEP is a very enriching programme. Nobody I have spoken to, disputes this. There are hundreds of pages on KSP and I don’t seem to find any legitimate dispute about this either.
As parents of GEP kids, we are told that our children have an exceptional intellectual gifting for higher order thinking, or simply put, ability to think out of the box or problem-solve. I think we ought to celebrate this gift and allow our children to celebrate this gift… because it is rare and it is meaningful! Typically, gifted children are inventors. I think GEP aims to give our kids the space to become the next Einstein, but not without hard work and perseverance. I think the GEP handbook has fully expressed this. Einstein himself said that the person who has never failed has never tried anything new! Einstein said he is not the smartest person (he has super IQ), he has simply pondered on the same problem for a much longer time! Tried it over and over again!
What I am trying to say is simply this - that as parents of GEP kids, we ought to have the same spirit as Einstein. If our kids are to be Einstein.
Our kids may not do as well in PSLE as children who spend a year doing ten year series. PSLE is indeed not about doing anything new, but producing methods, techniques and formulaes best perfected through practice. Parents with kids NOT in GEP are most happy to point this out.
But I don’t think they are right. It does not explain why the majority of GEP children do very well in PSLE, and why their performance have been so consistent that the top IP schools will continue to offer preferential DSA year after year. It is not just MOE that believes in the GEP btw, many countries, like the US or UK have similar programmes. Year after year.
So what if there are wild stories of a GEP kid flunking out, getting 240, or worse, getting just ONE point less than a mainstream kiddo? This is not a reflection of the lack of intelligence in these GEP children, just a reflection of the lack of generosity in some adults.
Let the children grow! -
Personally I will expect a ge pupil to score above 260.
If a GE child scores in the range of 250 to 255, it makes me wonder would it be better if the child stays in the mainstream instead of the gep. I strongly believe if these students stay in the mainstream and with the systematic guidance provided by some good primary schools, these students can benefit from the traditional drills and practice and improve on their weaker subjects. With no weak subjects, they shld be able to score above 257 and get into the ip schools. Personally I think ip schools provide a more holistic education.
Hence I can understand the dilemma tt some parents are facing now especially if the child is doing very well in the mainstream and the primary schools that they are in, really prepare the child well for psle.
We have to think beyond these 3 gep years. I am more concerned of my child 6 years of secondary education. Just my views. -
jtoh:
Oops sorry, I only meant 260+. But what you have stated is very encouraging
What's your definition of 'score very well'? There are many GEP students in the top students listed published by MOE yearly. These are students who attained the highest PSLE scores in the country. There are GEP students who score >280, many who score >270 and >260. Those who score <250 are few and far between. The girl who scored 294 (the highest PSLE score so far) was from GEP.porcupine12trade:
there are so many views...confuse me further. i spoke to a nyps teacher, the teacher encouraged my dd to go for gep.
sorry..1 more qn, may sound very hypothetical. I am sure dd will score very well for PSLE if she remains in mainstream, but if she goes for gep, is it possible she may not score as well? i dont want her to get penalized for doing something more challenging, sound very narrow-minded? Maybe I am greedy, I hope by joining gep, she is able to learn more (that is not psle related) and at the same time score (for psle) as well as if she stayed in mainstream. I have never expected gep to make her score any higher (than if she remain in mainstream). Hope i am talking sense. -
Let me share with you on my niece who was highly encouraged to go GEP after being selected. Initially i encouraged her not to. Not because she is not capable but i felt that the GEP curriculum may affect her PSLE score.
Her grades this year wasn’t what i expected of her. Not because she can’t do it but because the GEP curriculum took up most of the time plus her CCA.
My own opinion only eh…the GEP curriculum looks great. It encourages the child to think out of the box and gets to involve in non-academics works as well. But personally with today’s PSLE standard to secondary, i feel it is not necessary.
So to me, i am feeling the pinch for her in the next 2 years prior to P6. Now i truly understand when someone says not all high scorer in PSLE are GEPpers. -
PiggyLalala:
Personally I will expect a ge pupil to score above 260.
If a GE child scores in the range of 250 to 255, it makes me wonder would it be better if the child stays in the mainstream instead of the gep. I strongly believe if these students stay in the mainstream and with the systematic guidance provided by some good primary schools, these students can benefit from the traditional drills and practice and improve on their weaker subjects. With no weak subjects, they shld be able to score above 257 and get into the ip schools. Personally I think ip schools provide a more holistic education.
Hence I can understand the dilemma tt some parents are facing now especially if the child is doing very well in the mainstream and the primary schools that they are in, really prepare the child well for psle.
We have to think beyond these 3 gep years. I am more concerned of my child 6 years of secondary education. Just my views.
Can I comment that you have a high exceptions from the GE kids to score 260+ above? Note that not all GE kids are the top few in their cohort or schools when they are chosen for the programme. -
BluryMom:
I do not think so. Gep kids are so called the top 1-2 percent of the P3 cohort. If we assume that the selection test is acurate and that the kids put in the necessary preparation for psle, they should score above 260 which is ard top 3 percent of the cohort. With enough time to prepare and overcome their weaker subjects, I still think they should at least get ard 257, of course, would be better if say above 260.PiggyLalala:
Personally I will expect a ge pupil to score above 260.
If a GE child scores in the range of 250 to 255, it makes me wonder would it be better if the child stays in the mainstream instead of the gep. I strongly believe if these students stay in the mainstream and with the systematic guidance provided by some good primary schools, these students can benefit from the traditional drills and practice and improve on their weaker subjects. With no weak subjects, they shld be able to score above 257 and get into the ip schools. Personally I think ip schools provide a more holistic education.
Hence I can understand the dilemma tt some parents are facing now especially if the child is doing very well in the mainstream and the primary schools that they are in, really prepare the child well for psle.
We have to think beyond these 3 gep years. I am more concerned of my child 6 years of secondary education. Just my views.
Can I comment that you have a high exceptions from the GE kids to score 260+ above? Note that not all GE kids are the top few in their cohort or schools when they are chosen for the programme.
Hence if my child fails to get any IP schools next time, I may blame myself for making the wrong decision to allow him to join GEP. But this is life. We do not know exactly which is a better path for our child to take.
Again, just my view.
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My son is not good at CL, should he still choose HCL in GEP school? Is there CL in NHPS?
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