Spore MOM allows live out maids??
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Maybe should alert MOM?!?!
The maid agency may have told this expat it’s legal but i doubt so. They were just not caught, the expat hired maid for a few months.
Everything appears to be FDW, just live out and work 3 days for $300 and employer pay full levy.
For all you know, it’s a maid posting this. I think should definitely alert MOM. -
So the other 4 days what she does? How she survive with $300 in Singapore staying out (still need transport to & fro to our house leh)? Work for another family to earn another $300 - $400? Can meh??? Since the permit can only work for 1 family!!!
I have doubt on this advertisement!!! -
I’ve heard stuff, but not from horses’ mouth and don’t know who the maids are -
Maid have boyfriend (usually expat), live with him and do part time cleaning few houses, permanent and ad-hoc. Make much more money this way and have freedom. Some people pay this arrangement $30 per 3 hour block.
I never thought anyone would be bold enough to post the above ad online and call it legal. -
It’s totally illegal - from the MOM regulations…
"If the foreign employee whose occupation as stated in the Work Permit is that of a “domestic worker”, the foreign employee shall only perform household and domestic duties and reside at the employer’s residential
address or residential premises as stated in the Work Permit and visit pass. " -
Obviously... the maid is advertising for herself...
Nowadays maid so high-tech, last time use cold storage message board to put up free ads, now use online classified ads..
maid too smart duno whether good or not?
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When a FDW is able to go online, be it secretly using employers' facilities or her own wireless, I will not hire her. :scared:
The first question I'll ask a transfer maid is can you live without a mobile?
If she wants to work for me but refused to part with her mobile during working hours, she is a no-no. It is obvious FDW is here to make friends, not to focus on her role as domestic worker. Earning money is not her top priority!
I know she's lonely in Sg but my FDW can step out of my house to chit chat while taking my kid to playground or when she does her marketing (alone) almost everyday so I don't see the reason why mobile phone is a must. :? -
sad citizen:
Please just take a step back here - if you were in a foreign country cut off from your family and friends, how would you feel? We have to put ourselves in their shoes sometimes. Is it fair that she is only allowed to speak to people she meets in the course of her work? I would rather my maid was in touch with her cousins and people she knows than just talking to strangers in the market.When a FDW is able to go online, be it secretly using employers' facilities or her own wireless, I will not hire her. :scared:
The first question I'll ask a transfer maid is can you live without a mobile?
If she wants to work for me but refused to part with her mobile during working hours, she is a no-no. It is obvious FDW is here to make friends, not to focus on her role as domestic worker. Earning money is not her top priority!
I know she's lonely in Sg but my FDW can step out of my house to chit chat while taking my kid to playground or when she does her marketing (alone) almost everyday so I don't see the reason why mobile phone is a must. :?
I agree that they need to restrict mobile phone usage during working hours but their hours are very long so I think we can turn a blind eye to the occasional SMS as long as they are not compromising their safety or that of their children. If you can honestly say that you have never made a personal phone call at work, taken a slightly longer lunch break, chatted over coffee with a colleague, surfed the internet then OK, maybe you have the right to impose the same on your maid. But how many of us can really say that? -
[quote=\"nms1]Please just take a step back here - if you were in a foreign country cut off from your family and friends, how would you feel? We have to put ourselves in their shoes sometimes. Is it fair that she is only allowed to speak to people she meets in the course of her work? I would rather my maid was in touch with her cousins and people she knows than just talking to strangers in the market.
I agree that they need to restrict mobile phone usage during working hours but their hours are very long so I think we can turn a blind eye to the occasional SMS as long as they are not compromising their safety or that of their children. If you can honestly say that you have never made a personal phone call at work, taken a slightly longer lunch break, chatted over coffee with a colleague, surfed the internet then OK, maybe you have the right to impose the same on your maid. But how many of us can really say that?[/quote]
It is your choice to be a perfect employer.
Singapore FDWs are no longer living in ancient age.
FDWs get to choose what sort of environment and type of employer they want to work for, especially those transfer maids waiting to be recycled. I don't like fresh maid because I can't interview them in person so misunderstanding could arise over web-interview or plainly on bio data.
Transfer FDW and employer both need to pay agency fee so it is only fair that both get to choose what they prefer. :moneyflies: It is a 2-year long relationship, not 2 days or 2 months. Knowing holding mobile phone 24/7 is an issue, why should I make my life miserable, compromise and expose my child to risks? I bear all the liabilities, not agency, you or FDW.
If a FDW is unable to agree to my requests and put so much focus on her mobile to ease her boredom or hope to get every opportunity to stay close to her relatives and usual cycle of friends, FDW should turn down my offer flatly. Don't lie and agree to my so-call harsh terms just to be recycled and then try to manage me in my house.
It is bad to hire a FDW who often say \"not happy, send me back to agent\". :stompfeet: My style is to have a honest and transparent relationship, everything I can give, my requirements, they are all listed on the paper.
Do you know FDWs are no longer vunerable, they know their rights in Spore?
Do you know FDWs get mandatory weekly off days next year? Even if current contract states no off day or employer compensated them but they can still bargain for off days after working with you, in the form of better benefit? :frustrated:
Anything unacceptable, deemed too harsh or inhuman, based on my experience, transfer maids know how to say No so I don't think you need to worry about transfer FDWs being forced to be employed by employer who have similar request such as mine.
:xedfingers: -
sad citizen:
[quote=\"nms1]Please just take a step back here - if you were in a foreign country cut off from your family and friends, how would you feel? We have to put ourselves in their shoes sometimes. Is it fair that she is only allowed to speak to people she meets in the course of her work? I would rather my maid was in touch with her cousins and people she knows than just talking to strangers in the market.
I agree that they need to restrict mobile phone usage during working hours but their hours are very long so I think we can turn a blind eye to the occasional SMS as long as they are not compromising their safety or that of their children. If you can honestly say that you have never made a personal phone call at work, taken a slightly longer lunch break, chatted over coffee with a colleague, surfed the internet then OK, maybe you have the right to impose the same on your maid. But how many of us can really say that?
It is your choice to be a perfect employer.
Singapore FDWs are no longer living in ancient age.
FDWs get to choose what sort of environment and type of employer they want to work for, especially those transfer maids waiting to be recycled. I don't like fresh maid because I can't interview them in person so misunderstanding could arise over web-interview or plainly on bio data.
Transfer FDW and employer both need to pay agency fee so it is only fair that both get to choose what they prefer. :moneyflies: It is a 2-year long relationship, not 2 days or 2 months. Knowing holding mobile phone 24/7 is an issue, why should I make my life miserable, compromise and expose my child to risks? I bear all the liabilities, not agency, you or FDW.
If a FDW is unable to agree to my requests and put so much focus on her mobile to ease her boredom or hope to get every opportunity to stay close to her relatives and usual cycle of friends, FDW should turn down my offer flatly. Don't lie and agree to my so-call harsh terms just to be recycled and then try to manage me in my house.
It is bad to hire a FDW who often say \"not happy, send me back to agent\". :stompfeet: My style is to have a honest and transparent relationship, everything I can give, my requirements, they are all listed on the paper.
Do you know FDWs are no longer vunerable, they know their rights in Spore?
Do you know FDWs get mandatory weekly off days next year? Even if current contract states no off day or employer compensated them but they can still bargain for off days after working with you, in the form of better benefit? :frustrated:
Anything unacceptable, deemed too harsh or inhuman, based on my experience, transfer maids know how to say No so I don't think you need to worry about transfer FDWs being forced to be employed by employer who have similar request such as mine.
:xedfingers:[/quote][/quote]
Well said. If they want freedom then is better to choose other job than maid. -
Linlin:
[/quote]sad citizen:
[quote=\"nms1]Please just take a step back here - if you were in a foreign country cut off from your family and friends, how would you feel? We have to put ourselves in their shoes sometimes. Is it fair that she is only allowed to speak to people she meets in the course of her work? I would rather my maid was in touch with her cousins and people she knows than just talking to strangers in the market.
I agree that they need to restrict mobile phone usage during working hours but their hours are very long so I think we can turn a blind eye to the occasional SMS as long as they are not compromising their safety or that of their children. If you can honestly say that you have never made a personal phone call at work, taken a slightly longer lunch break, chatted over coffee with a colleague, surfed the internet then OK, maybe you have the right to impose the same on your maid. But how many of us can really say that?
It is your choice to be a perfect employer.
Singapore FDWs are no longer living in ancient age.
FDWs get to choose what sort of environment and type of employer they want to work for, especially those transfer maids waiting to be recycled. I don't like fresh maid because I can't interview them in person so misunderstanding could arise over web-interview or plainly on bio data.
Transfer FDW and employer both need to pay agency fee so it is only fair that both get to choose what they prefer. :moneyflies: It is a 2-year long relationship, not 2 days or 2 months. Knowing holding mobile phone 24/7 is an issue, why should I make my life miserable, compromise and expose my child to risks? I bear all the liabilities, not agency, you or FDW.
If a FDW is unable to agree to my requests and put so much focus on her mobile to ease her boredom or hope to get every opportunity to stay close to her relatives and usual cycle of friends, FDW should turn down my offer flatly. Don't lie and agree to my so-call harsh terms just to be recycled and then try to manage me in my house.
It is bad to hire a FDW who often say \"not happy, send me back to agent\". :stompfeet: My style is to have a honest and transparent relationship, everything I can give, my requirements, they are all listed on the paper.
Do you know FDWs are no longer vunerable, they know their rights in Spore?
Do you know FDWs get mandatory weekly off days next year? Even if current contract states no off day or employer compensated them but they can still bargain for off days after working with you, in the form of better benefit? :frustrated:
Anything unacceptable, deemed too harsh or inhuman, based on my experience, transfer maids know how to say No so I don't think you need to worry about transfer FDWs being forced to be employed by employer who have similar request such as mine.
:xedfingers:
Well said. If they want freedom then is better to choose other job than maid.[/quote][/quote][/quote]
I don't think many of the \"choose\" to be a maid. It is the best way for them to support their families and I'm sure they would all prefer to be doing something different.
I take the point that transfer maids have the right to choose whether they accept your rules but my personal view is that we shouldn't impose these kinds of restrictions on them. You are, of course, entitled to disagree - that is what forums are for
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