All Schools are GOOD Schools
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phtthp:
You can check this link :fightingmom:
The book is written by Dr Petunia Lee titled \"Internal Drive Theory - Motivate your child to want to study\"
How to buy this book ? Thanks.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=36240&start=80
Or you can pm Chenonceau.
Btw, I am not related to Chenonceau or engaged by her to do any marketing for her book. Happened to read this thread and I kay poh only. -
fightingmom:
Thank you very much, fightingmom. :thankyou:The book is written by Dr Petunia Lee titled \"Internal Drive Theory - Motivate your child to want to study\"
You can check this link :
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=36240&start=80
Appreciate your kind info & kind help.
is \"Chenonceau\" Dr. Petunia Lee - author of this book ? -
Chenonceau:
HSK took on a hefty portfolio. I think he and his team are only now beginning to find their feet and able to craft a vision to fix the ills of the system that was. The system needs some time to adjust. Maybe we can withhold judgment TEMPORARILY and see how MOE's further actions pan out in support of HSK's vision.
Can’t remember the exact details, but many years back, when teachers were encouraged to treat their students like customers, it created a tremendous uproar. What? Teaching is supposed to be a noble profession and you have now morphed it into a commercial transaction? ...... that seemed to be the gist of the sentiment then .....
But the bigger message in that communication was for teachers to fully comprehend the needs of the students. Just like in any commercial transaction, where a need is being fulfilled when money is used in exchange for the fulfilment of that need.
No use in just teaching the same old way when the teaching methods are just not getting through to your students. And when the student’s learning needs are not met, they will go to another who can meet those needs ....... yes ...... tuition!!!!!
I thought that was a great example of how, when messages are not communicated across properly, it can do more harm than good.
Guess what, history may be repeating itself! Another possible slogan headed to the dumps because of poor communication?
I do believe Minister Heng’s intention is to say that MOE will be working towards making all schools to be good schools BUT good does not just mean “good academically”. You will have schools good in academics in general, good in science, good in literature, good in various CCAs, etc ...... And I gather this to be the message when I read his speech in totality and what they intend to do ..... remove banding to remove focus on just the academics, whilst giving more funds for schools to develop more areas of niches.
As we educated our masses to support a developing nation, our labour force moved from one that had more doers than thinkers, to one that is possibly having more thinkers than doers now! So many Indian chiefs now, no one wants to be the Indians! So, in this next phase, we have to have THINKING DOERS to survive the competitive landscape and I do believe this is what they intend to do. Having schools produce the next generation of workers who are not just overly academically inclined, but with sufficient skill sets in a broad enough area to meet the various industries needs.
Personally, am not a big fan of MOE either because of all the various implementation issues in school that has ultimately affected our kids. On the other hand, am also worried that when they appear to be making changes for the better, they are also not getting the support they need ....... possibly because they have lost so much goodwill with parents for so many “missteps” and more importantly, their many arrogant denials all these years!!!
However, if the above is truly the intent of the latest move, then I agree with Chenonceau to hold judgement temporarily. -
fightingmom:
You can check this link :phtthp:
[quote=\"fightingmom\"] The book is written by Dr Petunia Lee titled \"Internal Drive Theory - Motivate your child to want to study\"
How to buy this book ? Thanks.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=36240&start=80
Or you can pm Chenonceau.
Btw, I am not related to Chenonceau or engaged by her to do any marketing for her book. Happened to read this thread and I kay poh only.[/quote]Oh that was quick. Followed the links and bought mine in 15 seconds =D
http://petunialee.blogspot.sg/p/book.html -
janet_lee88:
Every school is a good school. That line is a joke now.
This is a one liner joke used to happy p6 students. -
matrix0405:
Parents are the ones who map their children's future.janet_lee88:
Every school is a good school. That line is a joke now.
This is a one liner joke used to happy p6 students. -
PM LEE:
There are two different perspectives on education, on schools in Singapore. One is the MOE perspective - Every School Is A Good School. Whichever school you go to, whichever class or principal you have, you will get a good education. And we give every school the teachers, the resources, the backing. We help many of our schools develop niches of excellence. We make sure that the whole system is of a high standard. Every school is a good school. But parents and students have a different perspective. They accept the MOE argument but they still have strong preferences for certain schools. And even within the same housing estate, two separate schools, few hundred metres apart, parents will go to great lengths to bring their children into School A instead of School B. I see it every year when it comes to school admission time after the PSLE exams, when people come and try very, very hard. Having got a place in a good school, they want a place in another school which in their view will be better for their kid. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they do not. But the belief is very deep. And nationally that happens too, because secondary schools admit students from across the country and based on their academic results. So, the results of parents looking for what they think are the best schools and consulting websites like kiasuparents.com -- I am past that point, but I have not reached kiasugrandparents.com yet -- but the result of that is certain top secondary schools get a very high concentration of the very good students or at least the students with very good results. So in these top secondary schools, standards are very high, competition to get in is very intense and everybody feels enormous pressure. So you have these two views, one, MOE - Every School is A Good School. Two, parents, I prefer School A to School B. You ask me what is my take; let me tell you my take.
I believe we can make every school a good school and we have done a lot of that to ensure that every school provides a good education for the students. We give them the resources, we give them the good teachers, we emphasise values and we have made a lot of progress towards this goal. I asked MOE for some examples. They gave me two examples, both from Bukit Batok. I think the MP will be pleased. The first one is Bukit View Primary School where children perform drama to develop their confidence and they put on performances. The second one is Hillgrove Secondary School where they do Flight and Aerospace Education and this thing which you see buzzing around (pointing to slide), this is one of the super light kites with propellers which sometimes come put on a show at National Day. So, every school is a good school and I push MOE very hard to give the schools the resources, the good principals, the flexibility, the authority to teach students according to their students’ needs, to make the system work. And it is a philosophy which is not just for schools but even post-secondary levels. You look at this ITE campus – $500 million of investments, $500 million. Passionate lecturers, high quality programmes. Therefore, students are proud of themselves, wanting to be here, confident that beyond this, there are many possibilities in life.
So, we want every school to be good. But I am a realist. I accept that parents and students will always carefully choose which schools to go to. And I think it is good that parents compare and choose schools because it puts pressure on the schools to know that the parents are watching and that it makes a difference how they perform. But it is important that parents compare and contrast and choose on the right basis, not just examination grades but also how well the schools are really educating their children. Because you may have good grades because your children happen to be bright. But you may not be doing anything for them. They may be just educating themselves. You may have children who are not so naturally talented but with good education, you improve their performance, you make a big difference to them. So the quality of the schools, academically, in terms of character education, in terms of civic education, in terms of developing their students’ interest - if the parents are comparing schools like that and choosing schools like that, then I think we have the right incentives and it will work. -
Nebbermind:
PM Lee is also a ksp member????PM LEE:
There are two different perspectives on education, on schools in Singapore. One is the MOE perspective - Every School Is A Good School. Whichever school you go to, whichever class or principal you have, you will get a good education. And we give every school the teachers, the resources, the backing. We help many of our schools develop niches of excellence. We make sure that the whole system is of a high standard. Every school is a good school. But parents and students have a different perspective. They accept the MOE argument but they still have strong preferences for certain schools. And even within the same housing estate, two separate schools, few hundred metres apart, parents will go to great lengths to bring their children into School A instead of School B. I see it every year when it comes to school admission time after the PSLE exams, when people come and try very, very hard. Having got a place in a good school, they want a place in another school which in their view will be better for their kid. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they do not. But the belief is very deep. And nationally that happens too, because secondary schools admit students from across the country and based on their academic results. So, the results of parents looking for what they think are the best schools and consulting websites like kiasuparents.com -- I am past that point, but I have not reached kiasugrandparents.com yet -- but the result of that is certain top secondary schools get a very high concentration of the very good students or at least the students with very good results. So in these top secondary schools, standards are very high, competition to get in is very intense and everybody feels enormous pressure. So you have these two views, one, MOE - Every School is A Good School. Two, parents, I prefer School A to School B. You ask me what is my take; let me tell you my take.
I believe we can make every school a good school and we have done a lot of that to ensure that every school provides a good education for the students. We give them the resources, we give them the good teachers, we emphasise values and we have made a lot of progress towards this goal. I asked MOE for some examples. They gave me two examples, both from Bukit Batok. I think the MP will be pleased. The first one is Bukit View Primary School where children perform drama to develop their confidence and they put on performances. The second one is Hillgrove Secondary School where they do Flight and Aerospace Education and this thing which you see buzzing around (pointing to slide), this is one of the super light kites with propellers which sometimes come put on a show at National Day. So, every school is a good school and I push MOE very hard to give the schools the resources, the good principals, the flexibility, the authority to teach students according to their students’ needs, to make the system work. And it is a philosophy which is not just for schools but even post-secondary levels. You look at this ITE campus – $500 million of investments, $500 million. Passionate lecturers, high quality programmes. Therefore, students are proud of themselves, wanting to be here, confident that beyond this, there are many possibilities in life.
So, we want every school to be good. But I am a realist. I accept that parents and students will always carefully choose which schools to go to. And I think it is good that parents compare and choose schools because it puts pressure on the schools to know that the parents are watching and that it makes a difference how they perform. But it is important that parents compare and contrast and choose on the right basis, not just examination grades but also how well the schools are really educating their children. Because you may have good grades because your children happen to be bright. But you may not be doing anything for them. They may be just educating themselves. You may have children who are not so naturally talented but with good education, you improve their performance, you make a big difference to them. So the quality of the schools, academically, in terms of character education, in terms of civic education, in terms of developing their students’ interest - if the parents are comparing schools like that and choosing schools like that, then I think we have the right incentives and it will work. -
PM said he heard of KSP but he hasn’t taken a look.
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Nebbermind:
PM Lee is also a ksp member????PM LEE:
There are two different perspectives on education, on schools in Singapore. One is the MOE perspective - Every School Is A Good School. Whichever school you go to, whichever class or principal you have, you will get a good education. And we give every school the teachers, the resources, the backing. We help many of our schools develop niches of excellence. We make sure that the whole system is of a high standard. Every school is a good school. But parents and students have a different perspective. They accept the MOE argument but they still have strong preferences for certain schools. And even within the same housing estate, two separate schools, few hundred metres apart, parents will go to great lengths to bring their children into School A instead of School B. I see it every year when it comes to school admission time after the PSLE exams, when people come and try very, very hard. Having got a place in a good school, they want a place in another school which in their view will be better for their kid. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they do not. But the belief is very deep. And nationally that happens too, because secondary schools admit students from across the country and based on their academic results. So, the results of parents looking for what they think are the best schools and consulting websites like kiasuparents.com -- I am past that point, but I have not reached kiasugrandparents.com yet -- but the result of that is certain top secondary schools get a very high concentration of the very good students or at least the students with very good results. So in these top secondary schools, standards are very high, competition to get in is very intense and everybody feels enormous pressure. So you have these two views, one, MOE - Every School is A Good School. Two, parents, I prefer School A to School B. You ask me what is my take; let me tell you my take.
I believe we can make every school a good school and we have done a lot of that to ensure that every school provides a good education for the students. We give them the resources, we give them the good teachers, we emphasise values and we have made a lot of progress towards this goal. I asked MOE for some examples. They gave me two examples, both from Bukit Batok. I think the MP will be pleased. The first one is Bukit View Primary School where children perform drama to develop their confidence and they put on performances. The second one is Hillgrove Secondary School where they do Flight and Aerospace Education and this thing which you see buzzing around (pointing to slide), this is one of the super light kites with propellers which sometimes come put on a show at National Day. So, every school is a good school and I push MOE very hard to give the schools the resources, the good principals, the flexibility, the authority to teach students according to their students’ needs, to make the system work. And it is a philosophy which is not just for schools but even post-secondary levels. You look at this ITE campus – $500 million of investments, $500 million. Passionate lecturers, high quality programmes. Therefore, students are proud of themselves, wanting to be here, confident that beyond this, there are many possibilities in life.
So, we want every school to be good. But I am a realist. I accept that parents and students will always carefully choose which schools to go to. And I think it is good that parents compare and choose schools because it puts pressure on the schools to know that the parents are watching and that it makes a difference how they perform. But it is important that parents compare and contrast and choose on the right basis, not just examination grades but also how well the schools are really educating their children. Because you may have good grades because your children happen to be bright. But you may not be doing anything for them. They may be just educating themselves. You may have children who are not so naturally talented but with good education, you improve their performance, you make a big difference to them. So the quality of the schools, academically, in terms of character education, in terms of civic education, in terms of developing their students’ interest - if the parents are comparing schools like that and choosing schools like that, then I think we have the right incentives and it will work.
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