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    PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

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      Melodies
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      metz:
      ruohoo97:

      [quote=\"Melodies\"]

      That's why I started a thread this morning to find out the top 10% of cohort. As for finding out top 3%, Jtoh had already started a thread.

      In general, I think COP for all top schools (not just NYGH and HCI) will go up this year.

      The reason I pointed out NYGH and HCI is 47% of NYPS of p6 students, are above 250, which is COP for affiliated school into NYGH and HCI, I suspect that the majority of vacancy, after DSA, will be taken up by this group of students, while RGS and RI have no affiliated primary schools

      Did your child hear it from the VP too? My friend's child did. But a call to nyps, they clarified the child had heard wrongly. nyps has no affiliation to hci. nyps is only affiliated to nygh as stated in the grey book.

      Can anybody verify the above? i.e has any nyps student who scored 250-255 gotten into hci?[/quote]You are absolutely right! nyps is only affiliated to nygh!! nyps is not affiliated to HCI.

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        HAPPYH
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        Melodies:
        cherryc:

        [quote=\"Melodies\"]Some observations for this year PSLE results:

        1) NYPS alone, about 43 students score 270 and above this year. My observation is that there are too many of them this year as compared to 2011. (this is about the figure for the whole nation last year, I could be wrong and please feel free to correct me and clarify.)

        2) Same observation of having many who has scored 270's in other top primary schools too.

        3) It looks like many neighborhood schools are producing some top performers who have scored 270's now.

        What does that tell us? Hmmm :scratchhead:

        Anyone can weigh in?

        The list is going to be like:
        + It looks like Neighborhood schools are not bad after all.
        + Cut off point in top sec schools will go up? :yikes: n go on...
        +...
        +..


        On top of more than 40 kids scoring above 270, Nanyang has also a very high percentage (50% ???) of kids who scored above 250 while the percentage going to Express course nationwide is only 63%. IN addition, some schools highest scorers are only 270 or below , I wonder if MOE can throw some light into this. Maybe other schools are teaching the wrong things despite having very hardworking teachers …and despite the fact of so many students going for tuition.

        cherryc, Nanyang had abt 47% of kids who scored above 250 last year. So, to me, this is still consistent with previous year. The question probably is why Nanyang can consistently churn out good results while other schools can't deliver the results? Or Rather, why GEP schools can produce good results but other schools can't? Spill-over materials from GEP classes to the mainstream classes and hence those mainstreamers in Nanyang are benefited?[/quote]Hmm. Valid point. I feel MOE must come up with standard materials for all the levels across the island.

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          Melodies
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          Madeline-chua:
          Hi all,PSLE is just one if the hurdles in life and there are many others you need to progress across as you get older. My nephew like some over here didn't score as he expected. He scored 200 and was so upset as he wasnt able to enter his choice of school.


          I comforted him and told him there are many people who didn't do well and yet still went on to university. Take me and my husband for example. I scored only 216 when I took my psle in 1999 and during our time, we were made to choose our schools first before our results were released. I went into my last choice of school. My hubby on the other hand scored below 182 and went to normal academic.

          Today I'm a researcher currently taking my Masters degree in NTU while my hubby is doing his PhD in SMU. We both graduated from NTU and NUS respectively with 2nd class honours.
          :goodpost: Education is just a small part of our life! not to mention PSLE.....

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            Melodies
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            Very Kiasu Student:
            Yes, they use the corhot middle 2/3 to decide yr score. so for eg. the average is 60, the passing point is 60. Tat's what my principle said

            :yikes: :faint:

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              sinoboy
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              HAPPYH:
              Melodies:

              [quote=\"cherryc\"]

              On top of more than 40 kids scoring above 270, Nanyang has also a very high percentage (50% ???) of kids who scored above 250 while the percentage going to Express course nationwide is only 63%. IN addition, some schools highest scorers are only 270 or below , I wonder if MOE can throw some light into this. Maybe other schools are teaching the wrong things despite having very hardworking teachers …and despite the fact of so many students going for tuition.

              cherryc, Nanyang had abt 47% of kids who scored above 250 last year. So, to me, this is still consistent with previous year. The question probably is why Nanyang can consistently churn out good results while other schools can't deliver the results? Or Rather, why GEP schools can produce good results but other schools can't? Spill-over materials from GEP classes to the mainstream classes and hence those mainstreamers in Nanyang are benefited?

              Hmm. Valid point. I feel MOE must come up with standard materials for all the levels across the island.[/quote]The problem is not all students use standard materials. For example older kids taking the PSLE may use more advanced secondary standard English or MT vocab, Maths and Science skills. Most 12 year olds brains are disadvantaged as they may not be matured enough to learn these. Maybe that is why PSLE is under review. :yikes:

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                enoawng
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                ruohoo97:


                I beg different view here. This year, the dragon cohort has increased 3000 more candidates, that is about 6% increase. Notably, this year's percentage into Express stream is slightly higher than last year. While top scorers which are above 250 are constantly about 10% of each cohort; while top 3%, EESIS awarded students are constantly >260-263, so the increase of any particular T score group is no surprise.
                Does the dragon year mean the COP of all top schools above 250 will go up by a few points assuming the number of places in the top schools remains the same as last year.

                T-score experts, please provide an analysis what is really happening. Thanks.

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                  new_julie
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                  We should not be bothered the COP much as S1 posting is based on "Merit before Choise".

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                    Poet2010
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                    Dear Parents,

                    Congratulation on the achievement rendered by your child for PSLE 2012. For those whom did not make it this time round, do not feel upset, Primary education is just a part of the learning milestone, the journey uphill is still a long way to go. For those whom had excel for this season, be conscientious in your learning journey, it’s a continual effort.

                    Sidetrack …

                    for those whom intend to take up Uni study, take up the IP track
                    for those whom intend to go for the Polys, take up the ‘O’ level track

                    Learning is part of a milestone in our lifetime, decisions made is of prime consideration

                    Cheers. All The Best In the S1 Posting.

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                      sinoboy
                      last edited by

                      Madeline-chua:
                      Hi all,PSLE is just one if the hurdles in life and there are many others you need to progress across as you get older. My nephew like some over here didn't score as he expected. He scored 200 and was so upset as he wasnt able to enter his choice of school.


                      I comforted him and told him there are many people who didn't do well and yet still went on to university. Take me and my husband for example. I scored only 216 when I took my psle in 1999 and during our time, we were made to choose our schools first before our results were released. I went into my last choice of school. My hubby on the other hand scored below 182 and went to normal academic.

                      Today I'm a researcher currently taking my Masters degree in NTU while my hubby is doing his PhD in SMU. We both graduated from NTU and NUS respectively with 2nd class honours.
                      Perhaps you can share with us the path you and husband took to reach your success? A lot of parents can learn something from both of you.

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                        Melodies
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                        sinoboy:
                        HAPPYH:

                        [quote=\"Melodies\"]
                        cherryc, Nanyang had abt 47% of kids who scored above 250 last year. So, to me, this is still consistent with previous year. The question probably is why Nanyang can consistently churn out good results while other schools can't deliver the results? Or Rather, why GEP schools can produce good results but other schools can't? Spill-over materials from GEP classes to the mainstream classes and hence those mainstreamers in Nanyang are benefited?

                        Hmm. Valid point. I feel MOE must come up with standard materials for all the levels across the island.

                        The problem is not all students use standard materials. For example older kids taking the PSLE may use more advanced secondary standard English or MT vocab, Maths and Science skills. Most 12 year olds brains are disadvantaged as they may not be matured enough to learn these. Maybe that is why PSLE is under review. :yikes:[/quote]You just hit the nail on the head of the main problem in our education system.

                        Why is everyone using more advanced secondary materials to prep their Primary dc for PSLE exam nowadays?

                        I have seen a P3 kid who were doing the P6 worksheet right after the P3 SA2 papers while still waiting for SA2 results.

                        Why we are here today?

                        It is because MOE has implemented GEP scheme and allow them to study a more advanced secondary materials. As a result, Kiasuparents for those non-GEPpers have rush and prep their dc with equitable advanced secondary materials so that their kids will be as competitive and will not loose out.

                        The standard of the whole nation has gone up tremendously. Whose fault is it? Parents or MOE? The standard of primary level for the whole nation will continue to be high and even higher at an accelerated rate if there is no intervention from MOE. We are heading to an irreversible path now if nothing has been done and our poor dc is spending all the time to study and has no time for other!

                        MOE would have to ask themselves if it is really necessary to have GEP scheme for this small group of kids and continue to allow them learning a much higher level and stir up the whole nation level indirectly.

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