PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion
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Why r some parents here getting narrow minded about d GEppers n keep targeting them juz becos their own children r nt?
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phtthp:
I am fully agree that there are some who are truly gifted. Why you need to identify & differentiate them and then groom them specifically? Isn't it more healthy for them to blend in with majority? The moment you name them and differentiate them from others (as if they are special species), it will not be very healthy for their growth and development socially, emotionally and holistically. If they are truly gifted, they will shine all by themselves and they will stand out in the crowd and survive very well. Since when Albert Einstein & Da vinci required such as GEP program to groom them? Why you must have a system - a nanny system to favor this truly gifted kid?Newspaper:
Get rid of direct school admissions for students in the GEP. If they are truly gifted, they can compete with everyone else at the PSLE.
sinoboy:
Not all are gifted, some got in GEP programme \"hot housed\" by parents, by attending example: MindStretcher, some other Preparatory GEP programme, or the now defunct Aristocare GEP Preparatory programme.
GEP has been around for ages but it became a problem when top schools pre-select these students using DSA academic, displacing some main streamers from some vacancies.
Adding on to this is the IP programs that stresses parents and kids. You need to get 3 points and below to go into a good JC for 6 subjects at O level. How to do it, I don't know.
But my point about older kids is the those 13 or 14 year old who joined the school system from elsewhere but taking PSLE together with 12 year olds. They are more much matured in thinking and are better at complex problem solving and in most recent years they are the top scorers reported on media.
Best solution is to scrap GEP, IP program and DSA. Then all kids can compete on a true level playing field ... like the old days.
There are indeed some who are truly gifted. MOE truly desire to groom these. But maybe too small a number, so to let others \"accompany\" or join them to study together not to make it conspicious, make up to Total 500 pupils each year, by letting P3 cohort take GEP tests.
In fact, only around 25% make it to overseas scholarship, when come to A level.
The GEP kids naturally will score better in PSLE - cos they have special teachers, special care and learn much more than Mainstream pupils.
Yet some fare worse, but govt put it under wrap else look bad on their selection criteria.
Once you are a Gepper - the system already more or less favor the child for DSA system, unless the child really didn’t do well. Once in GEP, already one foot in. Don't need to worry so much about PSLE. The 500 seats/ places in Sec school more or less already reserved for them. It's a matter of slotting each individual GEP child into which Top Secondary school, depending on the individual child's (academic + CCA + leadership role exposure) performance from P4 to P6. Unless they fail, which is close to zero.
I am not sure if MOE has laxed rules recently. (do correct me if i'm wrong)
If a GEP child get 260 in PSLE - GEP child still given scholarship.
i thought 260 (a bit low) shouldn't get MOE scholarship. Need a much more higher score.
(imho).
It has been 28 years? Has our GEP program ever groomed the next potential 'Albert Einstein' & 'Da Vinci'? I hope that MOE is not giving them too much favor until they can't stand on their own feet!
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This seems to be true for 5 kids I know, out by at least 1 big figure from expectations.
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I wonder if we can have more statistics like top scores or percentage of students above 250 from all other neighborhood schools as well for a comparison.
In addition, given the profile of the top scorer, I wonder if it just pure hard work and brains only or more important to be in the right school, exposure to Maths Olympiad questions and other beyond syllabus stuffs or smaller class of 25 that will contribute to one’s stellar results in PSLE. Probably MOE should make every school like the top scorer’s school as apparently many schools are "far away" from it. -
CKmum:
Why r some parents here getting narrow minded about d GEppers n keep targeting them juz becos their own children r nt?
Those parents are not narrow minded and they are voicing up for the betterment of education system so that MOE can take all into consideration and make the best decision to tweak the current education system. Our dc either from mainstream or from GEP will benefit from the system eventually. -
OT a bit. Why do we get so antsy abt gep? Why dont we get agitated at the thought of training athletes, musicians, artists etc?? Why not question the humanities programme, AEP, MEP in schs? These are selective arent they?
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cherryc:
Definitely smaller class size and more personalized training. See how the Pathlight student got 273? Shows how programmes in our mainstream schools can be improved. Maybe I should send my youngest to Pathlight too.
In addition, given the profile of the top scorer, I wonder if it just pure hard work and brains only or more important to be in the right school, exposure to Maths Olympiad questions and other beyond syllabus stuffs or smaller class of 25 that will contribute to one's stellar results in PSLE. Probably MOE should make every school like the top scorer's school as apparently many schools are \"far away\" from it. -
CayennePepper:
OT a bit. Why do we get so antsy abt gep? Why dont we get agitated at the thought of training athletes, musicians, artists etc?? Why not question the humanities programme, AEP, MEP in schs? These are selective arent they?
Why not? you can start to discuss on all those topics? The point is to have a more diversified discussion! :boogie: -
Coolkidsrock2:
This seems to be true for 5 kids I know, out by at least 1 big figure from expectations.
True for my DD. But what does this mean?
1. Cohort mean score has gone up
2. number students having 260+ t-score have increased significantly. -
Melodies:
MOE states that :CayennePepper:
OT a bit. Why do we get so antsy abt gep? Why dont we get agitated at the thought of training athletes, musicians, artists etc?? Why not question the humanities programme, AEP, MEP in schs? These are selective arent they?
Why not? you can start to discuss on all those topics? The point is to have a more diversified discussion! :boogie:
Our goal in education is to provide every child with the opportunity to develop holistically and maximise his or her potential. In creating opportunities for all, MOE will ensure that every school is a good school.
Probably some will get more opportunities ? Education is a child's basic right . Sports , arts , you have a choice….
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