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[mathsparks]

xxjustakidxx:

Okay, from 248 (cop for third language, which will only be made up of pupils in the top 10 percent) to 290, there are 4000+ pupils. (Around 4300)

So, the few thousand theory is out.
And, NJC being a new school, there would not be many people choosing it. Furthermore, the number of people between 260-270 decreased significantly, and together with the number increase and the low results of pupils this year (averagely), Would it only decrease 1 mark? I think not. (If I doesn't happen, don't come and bash me, okay?)

Why do I keep seeing this statement in red? Where are you guys quoting from? :?

[xxjustakidxx]

Way2GO:

xxjustakidxx:

Okay, from 248 (cop for third language, which will only be made up of pupils in the top 10 percent) to 290, there are 4000+ pupils. (Around 4300)

If we take 10% COA at 248 and 3% COA at 261 (EESIS) and this year's PSLE cohort at 48,500+,
there are ~1,455 students in top 3%;
leaving ~3,395 students spread over a 13 point range from 248 - 260.
We don't know the distribution of this range, but I would hazard a guess that those in the 257 - 260 range stands a very good chance of getting into NJC.
I understand that NJC had ~ 200 places still available excluding DSA just b4 S1 posting exercise.

xxjustakidxx:

And, NJC being a new school

NJC is NOT a new school, though its 6 yr IP is. NJC was a premier JC before its decline. But it is coming up again and may one day be rated alongside Raffles and HCI.

I'm referring to the Junior high section, its new, and probably won't really attract as much pupils as HCI and RI for Junior High School.
Don't misunderstand.

[xxjustakidxx]

Look, where did we go.

Its appealing, not NJCing!
Okay back to the topic.

[VitoRelax]

Way2GO:

leaving ~3,395 students spread over a 13 point range from 248 - 260.

Where do we derive this figure from ?

[MintLeaf]

VitoRelax:

Way2GO:

leaving ~3,395 students spread over a 13 point range from 248 - 260.

Where do we derive this figure from ?

3,395 was derived from 7% of 48,500

[xxjustakidxx]

And how do I know 260-270 has become lesser?

The EISIS COP became lesser. It is now 261, instead of the usual 263(last year)

[Way2GO]

MintLeaf:

3,395 was derived from 7% of 48,500

Bravo!
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[harini]

Way2GO:

xxjustakidxx:

Okay, from 248 (cop for third language, which will only be made up of pupils in the top 10 percent) to 290, there are 4000+ pupils. (Around 4300)

If we take 10% COA at 248 and 3% COA at 261 (EESIS) and this year's PSLE cohort at 48,500+,
there are ~1,455 students in top 3%;
leaving ~3,395 students spread over a 13 point range from 248 - 260.
We don't know the distribution of this range, but I would hazard a guess that those in the 257 - 260 range stands a very good chance of getting into NJC.
I understand that NJC had ~ 200 places still available excluding DSA just b4 S1 posting exercise.

xxjustakidxx:

And, NJC being a new school

NJC is NOT a new school, though its 6 yr IP is. NJC was a premier JC before its decline. But it is coming up again and may one day be rated alongside Raffles and HCI.

The 257-260 range students, there may also be some that have DSA offers and so may not be applying in the S1 posting. Hurray - things seem to be looking brighter and positive for all - hahhahaa.

Hope the kids get into the schools they have been dreaming of ....

[ycpang]

mathsparks:

xxjustakidxx:

Okay, from 248 (cop for third language, which will only be made up of pupils in the top 10 percent) to 290, there are 4000+ pupils. (Around 4300)

So, the few thousand theory is out.
And, NJC being a new school, there would not be many people choosing it. Furthermore, the number of people between 260-270 decreased significantly, and together with the number increase and the low results of pupils this year (averagely), Would it only decrease 1 mark? I think not. (If I doesn't happen, don't come and bash me, okay?)

Why do I keep seeing this statement in red? Where are you guys quoting from? :?

This is easy to justify:

2008 PSLE total cohort was 49800, EESIS COP at 263. Therefore:

Top 3% who scored 263 and above = 49800 x 3% = 1494
My assumption is every 0.5% = 1 point of T-score, therefore:
Pupils who scored 260 to 262 = 49800 x 1.5% = 747
Total no. of pupils scored 260 and above = 1494 + 747 = 2241

2009 PSLE total cohort is 48500, EESIS COP at 261. Based on above assumption:

Top 3% who scored 261 and above = 48500 x 3% = 1455
Pupils who scored 260 = 48500 x 0.5% = 243
Total no. of pupils scored 260 and above = 1455 + 242 = 1698

The difference = 2241 - 1698 = 543 pupils

Add 50 additional vacancies by NJC = 593 pupils !

If there are 593 'extra\" vacancies, which is A LOT (imagine this is like one extra intake of IP school), the only direction for the COPs for tops school is -----> DOWN!

[VitoRelax]

ycpang:

This is easy to justify:


2008 PSLE total cohort was 49800, EESIS COP at 263. Therefore:

Top 3% who scored 263 and above = 49800 x 3% = 1494
My assumption is every 0.5% = 1 point of T-score, therefore:
Pupils who scored 260 to 262 = 49800 x 1.5% = 747
Total no. of pupils scored 260 and above = 1494 + 747 = 2241

2009 PSLE total cohort is 48500, EESIS COP at 261. Based on above assumption:

Top 3% who scored 261 and above = 48500 x 3% = 1455
Pupils who scored 260 = 48500 x 0.5% = 243
Total no. of pupils scored 260 and above = 1455 + 242 = 1698

The difference = 2241 - 1698 = 543 pupils

Add 50 additional vacancies by NJC = 593 pupils !

If there are 593 'extra\" vacancies, which is A LOT (imagine this is like one extra intake of IP school), the only direction for the COPs for tops school is -----> DOWN!

Good analysis & calculation.

But what is this EESIS COP that you equate to top 3 % ?

How do you know that the EESIS COP for PSLE 2009 is 261 ?

Thanks