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    Really impossible to direct hire Indonesian maid?

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    • B Offline
      BuSy JuNeBuG
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      Can’t comment on tourist passport holders but Indon workers (or just maids?) now need a red card called the KTKLN which can only be obtained in Indonesia, as of earlier this year. The card is needed if the maid returns for a home visit and then is coming back to Singapore again. While still in Indon, she needs to go to an authorized agent to apply for this KTKLN, which doesn’t cost much. You can get the list of agents from the Indon Embassy and send her the details of the one closest to her home.


      Once she has the KTKLN, you can send her the e-ticket for her to fly to Singapore and make sure you have done all the MOM online application. You MUST also complete the security bond or buy the insurance for it and submit the details to MOM before your maid arrives in Singapore, or she will be denied entry and sent back to Indonesia on the next flight. The insurance company can submit the details for you to MOM. It is not good enough for you to have the physical security bond document in your hands. It is useless if the info is not in MOM’s system. MOM transmits the info to ICA which then allows or denies maid entry into Singapore. So do this a few days before she arrives.

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        Layla
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        Problem is, the Indon Govt seems to have implemented the new rules from May/June 2012. Can anyone who has direct hired after JUNE confirm that it is do-able?

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          En-joy
          last edited by

          Thanks BusyJunebug!


          I hope someone has hired a helper directly after June, so that we can confirm the procedures.

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            BuSy JuNeBuG
            last edited by

            I did the paperwork in June and my helper came in July. You can try calling the Indon Embassy. My mum did and got though but I also went down personally to enquire about the KTKLN and got the list from them. Best you do that. Just go to the domestic worker enquiry counter, no long lines. Didn’t use any Singapore agent.

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              POA Teacher
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              BuSy JuNeBuG:
              I did the paperwork in June and my helper came in July. You can try calling the Indon Embassy. My mum did and got though but I also went down personally to enquire about the KTKLN and got the list from them. Best you do that. Just go to the domestic worker enquiry counter, no long lines. Didn't use any Singapore agent.

              So is your FDW under the new scheme then? i.e. she got a loan from the bank? and collects her salary from 1st month?
              Can also please clarify, was she a new maid , or was she returning from home leave?

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                heysugarbug
                last edited by

                Hi, I too would like to hire my ex-maid back directly. But I am not too sure how and where to start, especially when it comes to legalities. Look forward to more information shared. Thanks!

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                  BuSy JuNeBuG
                  last edited by

                  POA Teacher:
                  BuSy JuNeBuG:

                  I did the paperwork in June and my helper came in July. You can try calling the Indon Embassy. My mum did and got though but I also went down personally to enquire about the KTKLN and got the list from them. Best you do that. Just go to the domestic worker enquiry counter, no long lines. Didn't use any Singapore agent.


                  So is your FDW under the new scheme then? i.e. she got a loan from the bank? and collects her salary from 1st month?
                  Can also please clarify, was she a new maid , or was she returning from home leave?

                  If you mean the KTKLN requirement as being the new scheme, then yes, she had apply for the KTKLN herself from one of the agents on the embassy list before she left Indonesia. She had worked in Singapore before under a different employer previously then returned home. So I hired her directly as her new employer, neither of us had to incur high agency's charges and she got her full salary from the 1st month.

                  For maids on home leave, do check with embassy. I believe they apply for it here but must go back and collect the KTKLN before they return to Singapore.

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                    POA Teacher
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                    BuSy JuNeBuG:
                    POA Teacher:

                    [quote=\"BuSy JuNeBuG\"]I did the paperwork in June and my helper came in July. You can try calling the Indon Embassy. My mum did and got though but I also went down personally to enquire about the KTKLN and got the list from them. Best you do that. Just go to the domestic worker enquiry counter, no long lines. Didn't use any Singapore agent.


                    So is your FDW under the new scheme then? i.e. she got a loan from the bank? and collects her salary from 1st month?
                    Can also please clarify, was she a new maid , or was she returning from home leave?

                    If you mean the KTKLN requirement as being the new scheme, then yes, she had apply for the KTKLN herself from one of the agents on the embassy list before she left Indonesia. She had worked in Singapore before under a different employer previously then returned home. So I hired her directly as her new employer, neither of us had to incur high agency's charges and she got her full salary from the 1st month.

                    For maids on home leave, do check with embassy. I believe they apply for it here but must go back and collect the KTKLN before they return to Singapore.[/quote]As far as I know, they can only apply for the KTKLN while in Indon, not here. Perhaps it would be good if you could clarify with her about all the details.
                    Based on what I read, for those on home leave, they have to show their WP, air ticket, contract to apply for KTKLN.
                    Did she have to produce all/ any of those?

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                      BuSy JuNeBuG
                      last edited by

                      POA Teacher:

                      So is your FDW under the new scheme then? i.e. she got a loan from the bank? and collects her salary from 1st month?
                      Can also please clarify, was she a new maid , or was she returning from home leave?
                      If you mean the KTKLN requirement as being the new scheme, then yes, she had apply for the KTKLN herself from one of the agents on the embassy list before she left Indonesia. She had worked in Singapore before under a different employer previously then returned home. So I hired her directly as her new employer, neither of us had to incur high agency's charges and she got her full salary from the 1st month.

                      For maids on home leave, do check with embassy. I believe they apply for it here but must go back and collect the KTKLN before they return to Singapore.[/quote]

                      As far as I know, they can only apply for the KTKLN while in Indon, not here. Perhaps it would be good if you could clarify with her about all the details.
                      Based on what I read, for those on home leave, they have to show their WP, air ticket, contract to apply for KTKLN.
                      Did she have to produce all/ any of those?[/quote]

                      My maid was not a home leave situation so I wouldn't know for sure. For those thinking of a direct hire, please go to the Indon Embassy and make your queries there as each case may have slightly different circumstances and policies can change. On the MOM side, the instructions on their website are pretty straightforward. Just remember to arrange for the security bond before her arrival and ensure the info is sent to MOM as I outlined earlier.

                      The reason why maid agencies charge so much is so you don't have to figure all this out yourself. It is possible to do but you need to put the time and effort into it and be prepared to go through some anxiety wondering if you have done everything right. If you missed something along the way, the maid may not be allowed to enter Singapore and put on the first flight back and then you still have to figure out how to get her to Singapore again. :?

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                        POA Teacher
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                        Junebug, I’m not enquiring about home leave situation. That one is clear cut.


                        I’m asking how your new maid managed to apply for her KTKLN card without the usual documents eg work permit, contract, ticket. Are these documents not necessary in the case of a new maid?

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