MOE to stop publishing names of top students?

[sinoboy]

buds:

I exaggerated there la.


Yes, no need big big. Just acknowledge their success based on merit. Name them because we are proud of their success.. share their joys and learn from their success stories.. and may our children find inspiration from them.. the exemplary children that they are today.. and the hope for our future generation.

Yes let us be proud of our own kid's success. Since the preservation of our meritocratic system is a must, the top scorers should be named. If they cannot be named, it may be because there are inherent flaws and exploits in the system which have been covered extensively in many forums such as having an opportunity to learn HOT skills in a top school despite not making a top school's COP etc.

Review and elimination of DSA for GEP, GEP, IP system and age advantage of children at PSLE should be made to preserve meritocracy to create a level playing field to assess and sift out Singapore's top academic talents, so that our contribution towards nation building either through workforce participation, tax contribution or national service would not go to waste. :scared:

[Laura02]

wonderm:

buds:

I exaggerated there la.


Yes, no need big big. Just acknowledge their success based on merit. Name them because we are proud of their success.. share their joys and learn from their success stories.. and may our children find inspiration from them.. the exemplary children that they are today.. and the hope for our future generation.

I have no strong views about publishing the names or not, but I did enjoy reading the news - to share their joys!

On the one hand, I agree that children who have worked hard to achieve stellar results for PSLE deserve the recognition and praise for their hard work.

But on the other hand, I worry that these students have achieved good grades at the expense of other aspects of development. I would hate to think that these children find that they have reached the pinnical of their \"career\" at 12, then find that its downhill from there. Or that they grow up resentful that they missed out on a childhood because too much time and effort was placed on academic achievements. Or ... I think ... worse, that they grow up, or should I say, grow older, but do not grow up (as in do not emotionally mature). Like, an adult who remains in a lower management position, works very hard and is able to deliver on the technical aspect of the job, but is not able to handle the EQ aspects of higher management. Or an adult who (?touchingly) still counts his/ her mom as a best friend, goes for holidays with their parents only (never with friends), doesn't have friends outside the family circle, doesn't get married, ...

[pirate]

Laura02:

But on the other hand, I worry that these students have achieved good grades at the expense of other aspects of development. I would hate to think that these children find that they have reached the pinnical of their \"career\" at 12, then find that its downhill from there. Or that they grow up resentful that they missed out on a childhood because too much time and effort was placed on academic achievements. Or ... I think ... worse, that they grow up, or should I say, grow older, but do not grow up (as in do not emotionally mature). Like, an adult who remains in a lower management position, works very hard and is able to deliver on the technical aspect of the job, but is not able to handle the EQ aspects of higher management. Or an adult who (?touchingly) still counts his/ her mom as a best friend, goes for holidays with their parents only (never with friends), doesn't have friends outside the family circle, doesn't get married, ...

Only children with good grades have this kind of issues meh? :scratchhead:

[sinoboy]

pirate:

Laura02:

But on the other hand, I worry that these students have achieved good grades at the expense of other aspects of development. I would hate to think that these children find that they have reached the pinnical of their \"career\" at 12, then find that its downhill from there. Or that they grow up resentful that they missed out on a childhood because too much time and effort was placed on academic achievements. Or ... I think ... worse, that they grow up, or should I say, grow older, but do not grow up (as in do not emotionally mature). Like, an adult who remains in a lower management position, works very hard and is able to deliver on the technical aspect of the job, but is not able to handle the EQ aspects of higher management. Or an adult who (?touchingly) still counts his/ her mom as a best friend, goes for holidays with their parents only (never with friends), doesn't have friends outside the family circle, doesn't get married, ...

Only children with good grades have this kind of issues meh? :scratchhead:

I may be wrong but over protective parents may lead to over reliant kids that cling to parents even at older age. Other kinds of depression may be due to lack of communication skills as a result of living in the virtual world of computer and handphones for too long and can't interact properly in the real world. The most common frustration is between those marginally successful academically but not good enough to be a scholar such as a local grad and their scholar management. The non scholars may have to work very hard but may not have the same opportunities that are presented to scholars. As parents do you want your kids to grow up to be scholar or non scholar? If want to be scholar, Which exam to focus on? GEP test or PSLE?

[david59]

SAHM_TAN:

My bb loves to climb the stairs. It's fun for her even without the music.


If not rushing for time, I also like to climb the stairs with bb.

As for publishing of names, I don't get the part about inspiration. It's not that I don't appreciate the efforts put in by the kids but I just think it's strange. I'm ok that there are parents who will treat such news as inspiration. I just like to post that I don't understand and I'm also ok if others don't understand my view.

What inspire me r not those who are the top scorers. They r those who scored far better that what in their adverse or challenging environment or handicap can do that inspire me. Like the boy from Pathlight. We can tell our kids that if these kid can, ours should be able to learn from them too.
Is this what you think also?

[SAHM_TAN]

I’m going to be a loner in the forum after I post this…


I might not make sense here. I think to motivate or inspire a child, it does not start with newspaper articles or how successful someone else is. If a child is not motivated no matter how many motivational stories are thrown at the child, I doubt such stories will have any impact. I don’t think the situation of how the child succeed, from poor family background, encountered several setbacks, etc, matters to a child who lacks the drive to achieve.

[keroppi]

SAHM_TAN:

I'm going to be a loner in the forum after I post this.......


I might not make sense here. I think to motivate or inspire a child, it does not start with newspaper articles or how successful someone else is. If a child is not motivated no matter how many motivational stories are thrown at the child, I doubt such stories will have any impact. I don't think the situation of how the child succeed, from poor family background, encountered several setbacks, etc, matters to a child who lacks the drive to achieve.

Nay, you won't be a loner. I'm with you.

To me, motivation comes from within. No amount of success stories thrown at a child will motivate him, neither does carrot dangling. The child must find his own motivation to want to do well in his studies.

[SAHM_TAN]

keroppi:

SAHM_TAN:

I'm going to be a loner in the forum after I post this.......


I might not make sense here. I think to motivate or inspire a child, it does not start with newspaper articles or how successful someone else is. If a child is not motivated no matter how many motivational stories are thrown at the child, I doubt such stories will have any impact. I don't think the situation of how the child succeed, from poor family background, encountered several setbacks, etc, matters to a child who lacks the drive to achieve.

Nay, you won't be a loner. I'm with you.

To me, motivation comes from within. No amount of success stories thrown at a child will motivate him, neither does carrot dangling. The child must find his own motivation to want to do well in his studies.

Phew!! Heehee

[sinoboy]

keroppi:

SAHM_TAN:

I'm going to be a loner in the forum after I post this.......


I might not make sense here. I think to motivate or inspire a child, it does not start with newspaper articles or how successful someone else is. If a child is not motivated no matter how many motivational stories are thrown at the child, I doubt such stories will have any impact. I don't think the situation of how the child succeed, from poor family background, encountered several setbacks, etc, matters to a child who lacks the drive to achieve.

Nay, you won't be a loner. I'm with you.

To me, motivation comes from within. No amount of success stories thrown at a child will motivate him, neither does carrot dangling. The child must find his own motivation to want to do well in his studies.

I am with both of you. How to motivate children nowadays when they have wealthy parents buying them handphones, smart TVs, laptop, tablets accessing western media promoting drinking, sax and violence, K-pop and brainless dramas, online games, futball and gambling and pawn?

As a nation we do things to make ourselves competitive on the global arena. As a family we do things to make our family name proud. As individuals I feel that the present age kids are spoilt for choice with many different medium entertainment and time wasters to choose from.

I am talking about children in general. Most of our kids have not experienced the hunger. But do those that did experience the hunger have the means to do well given our high cost of living? Futile DSA attempts against goliath competitors cost a bomb to some of these families, and a parent even suggested limited the number of DSA a single child can apply (read somewhere in this forum). :scared:

[linden2000]

SAHM_TAN:

I'm going to be a loner in the forum after I post this.......


I might not make sense here. I think to motivate or inspire a child, it does not start with newspaper articles or how successful someone else is. If a child is not motivated no matter how many motivational stories are thrown at the child, I doubt such stories will have any impact. I don't think the situation of how the child succeed, from poor family background, encountered several setbacks, etc, matters to a child who lacks the drive to achieve.

Haha are you talking about my son? For him he just values his leisure too much and does not have the maturity at 12 years to see beyond the now and the present. Think these inspirational stories work only for those who have a certain level of maturity.