PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

[mummy so kiasu]

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Does the school push the average kids by giving them extra lessons? My brother said that his son from NYPS will do better than my son who is from a neighbourhood school. Is he being practical to say that his son will get into Hwa Chong if the boy only get B for all 4 subjects?

[Skyed]

mummy so kiasu:

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Does the school push the average kids by giving them extra lessons? My brother said that his son from NYPS will do better than my son who is from a neighbourhood school. Is he being practical to say that his son will get into Hwa Chong if the boy only get B for all 4 subjects?

All Bs want to go hwa Chong? Dream long long. Maybe if get in by dsa through some sport LOL. All As also can't go hwach I think, unless your As are all very high As, almost A*

[Coolkidsrock2]

The school can push but a lot depends on the child. There is no guarantee. I know 2 kids from SAP school slipping into the Normal stream this year. I also know of GEPper slipping at PSLE or in secondary school. Every child has the opportunity to write his own chapter as they progress in life.


I know a mum who regretted her DDs years in the NY family. The over-emphasis in academic excellence resulted in neglect in other aspects of their development and they are lagging behind in their working life.

[rains]

mummy so kiasu:

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Does the school push the average kids by giving them extra lessons? My brother said that his son from NYPS will do better than my son who is from a neighbourhood school. Is he being practical to say that his son will get into Hwa Chong if the boy only get B for all 4 subjects?

I don't remember my kid having alot of extra lessons apart from the usual p6 supplementary lessons starting after June. In fact, I was very worried that the school was 'laxed' compared to other schools that had started supplementary lesson in the beginning of the year or even at p5.

I think how my kid benefitted from the school is that the school never disillusioned her or her parents into thinking that she would do well in psle simply becos she's from ny. In fact, the majority of the kid have very low t-scores for their prelim, and the marking is usually stricter. Getting all Bs and hoping to get into hwa chong would be a tall order, in my opinion. Ny has no affiliation with hwa chong. Unless his child is doing well in school, I'm curious why your brother said that his child will do better.

[rains]

Coolkidsrock2:

The school can push but a lot depends on the child. There is no guarantee. I know 2 kids from SAP school slipping into the Normal stream this year. I also know of GEPper slipping at PSLE or in secondary school. Every child has the opportunity to write his own chapter as they progress in life.


I know a mum who regretted her DDs years in the NY family. The over-emphasis in academic excellence resulted in neglect in other aspects of their development and they are lagging behind in their working life.

I don't think ny only emphasizes on the academics. In fact, the school has alot of activities and programs that build and develop character and teamwork - something that some neighbourhood schools can't afford to do. There were times when I had my doubts about how effective these activities were as they took time away from academic-focused activities. But like what you said, alot depend on the child himself.

I'd rather have the school does what it's supposed to do - to teach and open many windows for the child, than to have a child full of character, excels at ccas and does badly for his psle, bcos in Singapore, without decent academic qualifications, many windows are closed to you.

[Coolkidsrock2]

rains:

Coolkidsrock2:

The school can push but a lot depends on the child. There is no guarantee. I know 2 kids from SAP school slipping into the Normal stream this year. I also know of GEPper slipping at PSLE or in secondary school. Every child has the opportunity to write his own chapter as they progress in life.


I know a mum who regretted her DDs years in the NY family. The over-emphasis in academic excellence resulted in neglect in other aspects of their development and they are lagging behind in their working life.

I don't think ny only emphasizes on the academics. In fact, the school has alot of activities and programs that build and develop character and teamwork - something that some neighbourhood schools can't afford to do. There were times when I had my doubts about how effective these activities were as they took time away from academic-focused activities. But like what you said, alot depend on the child himself.

I'd rather have the school does what it's supposed to do - to teach and open many windows for the child, than to have a child full of character, excels at ccas and does badly for his psle, bcos in Singapore, without decent academic qualifications, many windows are closed to you.

The kids spent a lot of time studying in order to be on top of their work, thus they do not have much time for other activities. When they started work, the lack/underdevelopment of certain personal qualities resulted in a glass ceiling to their progress.

Agree that decent academic qualifications is a must or many windows will be closed. It will be stressful regardless of whether at the top or the bottom but it is nicer at the top.

[rains]

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The kids spent a lot of time studying in order to be on top of their work, thus they do not have much time for other activities. When they started work, the lack/underdevelopment of certain personal qualities resulted in a glass ceiling to their progress.

Agree that decent academic qualifications is a must or many windows will be closed. It will be stressful regardless of whether at the top or the bottom but it is nicer at the top.[/quote]

I hope I won’t be taken as arrogant to say the following: there is some truth about an average ny kid doing better than an above average kid in a neighbourhood school (in some cases).

My kid is probably ranked 220+ or even 230+ in ny. Her t-scores were always hovering around 202 - 219. Three girls among the top two to top six in three different neighbourhood schools were having tuition at my place. All three were supposed to score above 250 at psle, according to their teachers. Their t-scores at school were above 250 and 260. Two of them often made unkind comments about my kid by expressing shock and disbelief at her ‘slackness’ at preparing for psle, compared to how on-the-ball and diligent they were. They would have completed at least two tuition sessions when my kid was still sleeping. They even said that my kid would need our support when results release. I must admit I was highly stressed by such remarks and often scolded my kid harshly following these kids’ comments.

As it turned out, at psle, my kid did slightly better than them. We were immensely relieved that those kids’ nasty ‘prophecy’ didn’t come true. And honestly, my kid continued/s to be a sleeping beauty thro out her psle no matter how I’d ranted at her.

I’m quoting this example to let you know that altho there was academic emphasis, it didn’t come at the price of character development and not every kid would be so obedient as to follow what the school wants them to do, like my kid. Her laxed personality and character didn’t get changed despite all forms of emphasis, academic or otherwise.

[Coolkidsrock2]

Am glad your kid had a good experience. The pair of siblings did not turn out as well as hoped but I acknowledge that different children will go through the same system with different outcomes as every child is different. One was hospitalised for 6 years but managed to obtain a medical related degree though she is not practising in the relevant field. Employer (global firm) recognised her technical ability but commented that she lacks the personal skills. Other just started work not too long ago but physical health giving way.


Know another couple of students there but they are still very young.

[mummy so kiasu]

Hi rains, Most people are aware that this year national top scorer is from NYPS, GEP (285) Any idea what is the score of NYPS mainstream top scorer?

[Skyed]

mummy so kiasu:

Hi rains, Most people are aware that this year national top scorer is from NYPS, GEP (285) Any idea what is the score of NYPS mainstream top scorer?

More than one sch produced a student with 285 not just NY