Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down
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HVR:
But you missed out the following.........The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
By LTK and has been said on numerous occasions:-
\"WP must be ready one day to be an alternative choice for the people, especially if the ruling party should become incompetent or corrupt\".
By Chen Show Mao at the PE by-election rally:
\"It will take time for an Opposition party to grow into the role of being a credible alternative government. We must start now. Just because this task is challenging does'nt mean we won't do it. Because it takes time, we should start now\".
The Opposition do have ambitions other than providing \"check and balance\". They do come out with alternatives which they obviously will have no chance to see through being the minority in the parliament. And often these alternatives have been put down by the ruling party without any bother to even take a peep. Judging by the flow of credible people to the Opposition before the 2011 GE and the growing voices from the social media and cyberspace for which control is difficult and much harder to suppress, we could well see a better distribution of seats in parliament; the ruling party aware and is countering while, at the same time, adjusting. -
Rational_Parent:
Fair enough. To Singapore and its people, what's important is regardless who form the government, they must show they are capable and can do the job. While WP is doing a good job, they cannot keep emphasis their 'check' and 'watch' roles. They must also do a lot more to convince voters that they do have plans and solutions. For example, how to raise TFR? If they have some plans, they can file a motion in parliament and garner supports. If the policy is good, wide eyes Singaporeans can see and tell it, objection by incumbent or not. Don't forget we have Walton Woon who, as a NMP, pushed and successfully have the law of Maintenance of Parents Act read and passed in parliament and become part of our statutes now. In another word, they must rise to the next level, don't just 'watch' and 'check', it doesn't take a genius to do it.
But you missed out the following.........HVR:
The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
By LTK and has been said on numerous occasions:-
\"WP must be ready one day to be an alternative choice for the people, especially if the ruling party should become incompetent or corrupt\".
By Chen Show Mao at the PE by-election rally:
\"It will take time for an Opposition party to grow into the role of being a credible alternative government. We must start now. Just because this task is challenging does'nt mean we won't do it. Because it takes time, we should start now\".
The Opposition do have ambitions other than providing \"check and balance\". They do come out with alternatives which they obviously will have no chance to see through being the minority in the parliament. And often these alternatives have been put down by the ruling party without any bother to even take a peep. Judging by the flow of credible people to the Opposition before the 2011 GE and the growing voices from the social media and cyberspace for which control is difficult and much harder to suppress, we could well see a better distribution of seats in parliament; the ruling party aware and is countering while, at the same time, adjusting. -
a smart student does not go to a school, and declares that he knows everything and can teach better than the teacher.
he learns and watches, see the flaws and learn from them. see the skills and learn from them.
an apprentice does not declare himself better than the predecessor until the time is right for him to prove himself, least it is construed as arrogance… and we have had loads of arrogance in the past already with many pretenders within the school, we dont need any more liao. -
HVR:
Fair enough. To Singapore and its people, what's important is regardless who form the government, they must show they are capable and can do the job. While WP is doing a good job, they cannot keep emphasis their 'check' and 'watch' roles. They must also do a lot more to convince voters that they do have plans and solutions. For example, how to raise TFR? If they have some plans, they can file a motion in parliament and garner supports. If the policy is good, wide eyes Singaporeans can see and tell it, objection by incumbent or not. Don't forget we have Walton Woon who, as a NMP, pushed and successfully have the law of Maintenance of Parents Act read and passed in parliament and become part of our statutes now. In another word, they must rise to the next level, don't just 'watch' and 'check', it doesn't take a genius to do it.[/quote]But the government formed by the ruling party also came out with flawed policies where \"wide eyes Singaporeans can see and tell\" - example \"The Graduate Mother Scheme\". Worst still, it was forced down \"wide eyes Singaporeans\" throats and it had to take an election to correct. The \"Stop at two\" policy was also flawed such that we now have to get in \"foreign talents\" to correct our population imbalance. Some poor mothers even went for tubal ligation surgery because of the disadvantage to the third and subsequent child and regretted their actions.
But you missed out the following.........Rational_Parent:
[quote=\"HVR\"]The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
By LTK and has been said on numerous occasions:-
\"WP must be ready one day to be an alternative choice for the people, especially if the ruling party should become incompetent or corrupt\".
By Chen Show Mao at the PE by-election rally:
\"It will take time for an Opposition party to grow into the role of being a credible alternative government. We must start now. Just because this task is challenging does'nt mean we won't do it. Because it takes time, we should start now\".
The Opposition do have ambitions other than providing \"check and balance\". They do come out with alternatives which they obviously will have no chance to see through being the minority in the parliament. And often these alternatives have been put down by the ruling party without any bother to even take a peep. Judging by the flow of credible people to the Opposition before the 2011 GE and the growing voices from the social media and cyberspace for which control is difficult and much harder to suppress, we could well see a better distribution of seats in parliament; the ruling party aware and is countering while, at the same time, adjusting.
Times have changed. \"Wide eyes Singaporeans\" do not just want to see and tell, they also want check and balance and for the government to listen. As the old adage goes \"Prevention is better than cure\". Some policies of the past have been damaging in my view and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know it. Unless someone can assured \"wide eyes Singaporeans\" that there'll be no more bad policies, you can't really stop some of them from rooting for \"Check and watch\". -
HVR:
I agree it is not exactly ideal. But then AIM came along and remind me that the alternative could well be even more dangerous for Singapore. So, how?The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
Anyways, we are still a long time away from WP saying they are ready to form a government. I think WP will find the going a lot tougher if they ever become big enough to capture, say 1/3 of Parliament. -
Certainly there were flaw policies. It is almost impossible to get it right 100% of the time. I am sure there will be more flaw policies in future, regardless who is the incumbent. When this happened, I want to judge the implementation of the flaw policies by the intention. If the intention was to benefit majority of Singaporeans but the effect prove otherwise, then take remedy actions and move on. To expect zero mistake or perfect policies is simply unrealistic.
If I am convinced someone can do the job and is sincere, he or she will get my vote. I am not convinced WP has the resources and capabilities to form government now. Their leaderships admitted as much that they had to concentrate in aljunied and did not continue their work at punggol east for 1 year. Now this had me worried if somehow, they sweep into power what is going to happen to Singapore? -
pirate:
I have my view on AIM saga. Since PM has ordered the review, I am eagerly waiting for the report. While I believe everything is above board, I would like to hear more explanations on the purchase of the sofeware by AIM.
I agree it is not exactly ideal. But then AIM came along and remind me that the alternative could well be even more dangerous for Singapore. So, how?HVR:
The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
Anyways, we are still a long time away from WP saying they are ready to form a government. I think WP will find the going a lot tougher if they ever become big enough to capture, say 1/3 of Parliament. -
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HVR:
I have my view on AIM saga. Since PM has ordered the review, I am eagerly waiting for the report. While I believe everything is above board, I would like to hear more explanations on the purchase of the sofeware by AIM.
PM will have to deal with AIM very carefully, because it scared the heck out of a lot of voters from professional and financial industry backgrounds.
On the contrary, I am not interested in explanations on the purchase of the software by AIM. I am interested in what changes in legislation they are going to introduce to ensure it does not happen again, at both TC and national levels. -
raysusan:
RP rally
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