Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down

[concern2]

Harlequin:

concern2:

[quote=\"Harlequin\"]Sometime people itchy mouth, add juices in hyped season like this. Don't need to believe every rumors.

\"我们没法子，要投PAP..\"
So I should go tell them, \"别听这些胡言乱语！ 没这回事！想投给谁，就投给谁！投票是秘密的！“

Maybe they give this answer just to counter the overzealous opposition's persuaders :evil:[/quote] :skeptical: hinting at me iseeet? No lah, you won't believe how subtle a person I am in real They were actually chatting amongst themselves.

[Way2GO]

Harlequin:

if such \"magic\" can be done, the last poll's winning margin wouldn't be so thin.

:scratchhead:
wat magic u referring to?

[concern2]

Way2GO:

3Boys:

[quote=\"concern2\"]
3Boys, I heard it first hand from a new citizen hor!! :rant:

People will believe what they want to believe....

Prolly feel indebted to d MIWs n is their way of expressing gratitude for gaining citizenship or more prolly self serving. Out of fear when some new citizens still hv other family members' PR n citizenship papers pending.
Dat is d problem we r faced with when ppl cannot differentiate/delink public institutions such as d ICA fr d MIWs.[/quote]Ya, sounds more like it.

[3Boys]

Way2GO:

3Boys:

If they naturalise in a country because they like the place, because it's well run and provides economic opportunity with low unemployment, why would one want to rock the boat? And if the MIW is associated with that success, it's not unfair, is it?

Dat's fair.
But it becomes an unhealthy problem when it is driven by fear, whether real or perceived.

Likewise when opposition parties (other then WP) are driven from the fray by fears, whether real or perceived.

The sad thing is when KJ brings up this issue, instead of folk feeling concerned about the democratic process being undermined, he gets more brickbats and derision, up to accusations of having concocted the whole thing up.

[raysusan]

PS rally is nice...very entertaining


i was actually expecting him to be as aggressive as those past rallies
this time he choose to talk about on LLL instead of pap

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Vx6s7K4dc][/youtube]

[concern2]

3Boys:

Way2GO:

[quote=\"3Boys\"]
People will believe what they want to believe....

Prolly feel indebted to d MIWs n is their way of expressing gratitude for gaining citizenship or more prolly self serving. Out of fear when some new citizens still hv other family members' PR n citizenship papers pending.
Dat is d problem we r faced with when ppl cannot differentiate/delink public institutions such as d ICA fr d MIWs.

If they naturalise in a country because they like the place, because it's well run and provides economic opportunity with low unemployment, why would one want to rock the boat? And if the MIW is associated with that success, it's not unfair, is it?[/quote]Hmmm....there are different groups, and I can associate what you have said with another group of older new citizen folks that I know of. They like listening to one Chinese radio station in particular. With the one I was talking about, she faces the various challenges like the rest of us.

[Harlequin]

concern2:

Harlequin:

[quote=\"concern2\"]

\"我们没法子，要投PAP..\"
So I should go tell them, \"别听这些胡言乱语！ 没这回事！想投给谁，就投给谁！投票是秘密的！“

Maybe they give this answer just to counter the overzealous opposition's persuaders :evil:

:skeptical: hinting at me iseeet? No lah, you won't believe how subtle a person I am in real They were actually chatting amongst themselves.[/quote]Last year polling day we gathered at a friend's house watching Yap Ah Mee, one friend asked another, so who did you vote? The other guy replied, non of anybody's business. People generally have qualm to disclose who they vote, can see that these group of new citizens probably won't tell the truth to their neighbors, even among themselves.

[MMM]

concern2:

Harlequin:

Sometime people itchy mouth, add juices in hyped season like this. Don't need to believe every rumors.

\"我们没法子，要投PAP..\"
So I should go tell them, \"别听这些胡言乱语！ 没这回事！想投给谁，就投给谁！投票是秘密的！“

It is really a secret. So they can vote for whoever they want.... I think WP spoke about this during the GE.

They emphasized that voting is indeed a secret (unlike some hearsay where government can track by batches, etc...). They will seal the box after votes counting. Think this is witnessed by the relevant authority as well opposition representatives. Even when the votes are being destroyed (through burning), the candidates are also present to witness the process. Think it was shown on news when \"newly crowned\" Aljunied MPs witnessed the destruction of votes.

[concern2]

3Boys:

Way2GO:

[quote=\"3Boys\"]

If they naturalise in a country because they like the place, because it's well run and provides economic opportunity with low unemployment, why would one want to rock the boat? And if the MIW is associated with that success, it's not unfair, is it?

Dat's fair.
But it becomes an unhealthy problem when it is driven by fear, whether real or perceived.

Likewise when opposition parties (other then WP) are driven from the fray by fears, whether real or perceived.

The sad thing is when KJ brings up this issue, instead of folk feeling concerned about the democratic process being undermined, he gets more brickbats and derision, up to accusations of having concocted the whole thing up.[/quote]I actually felt sorry for him if you were to ask me. It was drizzling last night some more... :faint: And for that nagging feeling of pity, I felt he just have to learn it the hard way.

[Harlequin]

Way2GO:

Harlequin:

if such \"magic\" can be done, the last poll's winning margin wouldn't be so thin.

:scratchhead:
wat magic u referring to?

Like those mentioned earlier, intimidating tactics, don't give me I don't friend you