Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down
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Irrelevant:
I feel the same, but didn't want to be the first to say so.
First of all, I will admit to voting for the opposition in all the elections that were not walkovers.goldenvoice:
I used to stay in Blk.194, Rivervale Drive until I was forced to sell my flat by the HDB somewhere in 2009. Initially, I was in arrear of 3-4 months on the payment of my HDB loans. When they kept sending reminders, left with no other choice, we sought help from our ex-MP, Michael Palmer.
Long story short, HDB wrote to tell us that they will arrange some kind of installment payment for us which we thought was something to cheer about. Sadly enough, our joy was short-lived. We were 'chased' once again by the HDB on our arrears. I can still remember very vividly, on one occasion when I received a call from the HDB officer, an Indian lady, when she raised her voice over the phone. Feeling frustrated with her attitude, I shouted back at her. That's the kind of treatment you get when you owe them money.
Why am I sceptical that goldenvoice (\"GV\") is not telling us the full story?
a. There is no mention of when GV started to be in arrears. Is it 2009, 2008, 2005 or even earlier? In other words, was it a one-off incident or a sustained default?
b. What is wrong with HDB sending reminders? You mean you expect them to keep quiet for 6 months?
c. Did GV infringe other HDB rules, e.g. renting out rooms with permission, etc?
d. Why is there a need to mention race of the lady? What kind of feelings is GV trying to incite?
e. The HDB that I know is always friendly and very reasonable. As HDB are not measured on their bottomline, they have no profit incentive. Unlike a financial institution, taking back a HDB flat would hardly enhance anybody's (in HDB) KPI. Only persistent default or infringement of HDB rules will cause one's flat to be re-possessed.
Incidentally, even when a person is adjudged a bankrupt, his creditors cannot force a HDB owner to sell the flat to satisfy outstanding debts..... -
Who would have thought that a professor can ... :censored: student, principal can ... :censored: underage, teacher can ... digitally :censored: student, scholar can ... , doh ray, meng yee, kong hee can ... fatt choy. Even MPs can ...
Anything is possible. Best is not to be too skeptical and keep an open mind. 
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3Boys:
I feel the same, but didn't want to be the first to say so.
Ha Ha. I'm happy to play the bad cop. The testimony of the plaintiff has too many weaknesses....
On another note, do you reckon that the lightning guys might move to a system of proportional representation in future, instead of the current first pass the post electoral system? I think it might be possible within 2-3 GEs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation//url -
Mdm Koh:
It isn't a coincidence that Hougang SMC is an opposition ward. Many of the x-pig farmers were forced to move into HDBs to be inlined with the national development plans. They were told that Singapore was over-populated, that the country has shortage of land to house the huge population. (See the irony now? They are still increasing the population size till today!)
When I heard the part about the pig farms and kampongs, I wondered whether the former pig farmers and kampong dwellers felt offended that their old homes were being referred to in such a negative way. There is no problem with being a pig farmer or living in a kampong, right? :skeptical:
I believe he meant to say that PAP was responsible for urbanising the area, and perhaps improving hygiene standards and providing more facilities for the new residents. However, the way he put it was very snobbish, imho. I wanted to tell him that if it weren't for pig farmers, we would have no pork to eat. :spank:
Pleads fell to deaf ears. They brushed you aside, gave you cold shoulders - \"PEASANTS\" are people without power and status in society, yet the peasants in Singapore provided the food source that we never had to rely so heavily on. Peasants make an honest living, they are hardworking people, they don't mind getting their hands dirty, their needs are simple, they don't crave for materialism so much. They are self-sufficient in many ways, bearing many children to help out in the farms, growing their own food supply and supplying to others as well. But that's not what the garmens want. Garmens want you to rely on them, to want to buy things, to boost GDP, to make everyone spend. That's how they make the economy grow. This is the same in most developed countries, and hence we all share the same problems!! This is not a local issue, and it is not a national issue. This is a global issue!
If you were to talk to any pig farmers, they will feel sore about it, but they trusted that the garmen had better plans that would help them benefit EVERY SINGAPOREAN. So here we go: IT IS SINGAPOREANS WHO MADE OUR SUCCESS POSSIBLE! The peasants do feel proud that Singapore has achieved such a great success. But if you were to ask them of their memories of Punggol, they will tell you what our dear \"Son of Punggol\" have told you - and much more, not 'dirt roads' like what PM said.
Sorry, ah, just responding to Mdm koh's comments, not canvasing for votes - I am not running for elections
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Irrelevant:
I'm tired of being perpetual bad cop. For someone with less than 100 posts, you've really come out swinging eh?!3Boys:
I feel the same, but didn't want to be the first to say so.
Ha Ha. I'm happy to play the bad cop. The testimony of the plaintiff has too many weaknesses....
On another note, do you reckon that the lightning guys might move to a system of proportional representation in future, instead of the current first pass the post electoral system? I think it might be possible within 2-3 GEs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation//url
Dunno about proportional representation, seems to lead to hung governments. -
3Boys:
I'm tired of being perpetual bad cop. For someone with less than 100 posts, you've really come out swinging eh?!Irrelevant:
[quote=\"3Boys\"]I feel the same, but didn't want to be the first to say so.
Ha Ha. I'm happy to play the bad cop. The testimony of the plaintiff has too many weaknesses....
On another note, do you reckon that the lightning guys might move to a system of proportional representation in future, instead of the current first pass the post electoral system? I think it might be possible within 2-3 GEs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation//url
Dunno about proportional representation, seems to lead to hung governments.[/quote]Wah, you're up! I was editing and editing my post until I donno when I'll stop - good thing you're here!
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Is it the people, or is it the leadership that maketh the country?
Were the German people universally evil and anti semitic, or was it a charismatic leader with great political nous and a resonant (though flawed) philosophy that drove Germany to catastrophe in the 1930s.
Are the 25% of unemployed Greeks and Spaniards lazy people who don’t go find work, or is it a failure of government and leadership that has landed them where they are?
My maid from a SEA country is one smart lady. She learns quickly, is good with the kids, works hard, doesn’t complain. If she has been born in Singapore, who knows what she could have achieved? Honestly, the sky would have been the limit, I feel. Doctor, educator, banker, I think she would been able to do it. It’s too late for her now, in her 40s. The country did not provide the opportunities, either in education, or economic advancement, to develop her potential.
Are Singaporeans a whole lot smarter than Malaysians, Indonesians, Taiwanese? Your Myanmese colleague less capable than you? He somehow has inferior genes? Do we work harder then these people? Is it in our DNA?
You know the answer…
What differentiates Singapore from our neighbors, and indeed, many other countries, is the quality of our leadership. This has been cited over and over and over again by think tanks, leaders in other nations, multinationals.
We kid ourselves when we say our success is just down to our people. Yes, the people are the engine, but who’s the driver? A bus can go over a cliff if not for an attentive driver (see Germany, Greece, Spain). -
3Boys:
So the question now is what drives a country, govt or people? And goes back to the driver and co-driver again? Oh boy... I am not a cop...am I allowed to wave a white flag now?Is it the people, or is it the leadership that maketh the country?
Were the German people universally evil and anti semitic, or was it a charismatic leader with great political nous and a resonant (though flawed) philosophy that drove Germany to catastrophe in the 1930s.
Are the 25% of unemployed Greeks and Spaniards lazy people who don't go find work, or is it a failure of government and leadership that has landed them where they are?
My maid from a SEA country is one smart lady. She learns quickly, is good with the kids, works hard, doesn't complain. If she has been born in Singapore, who knows what she could have achieved? Honestly, the sky would have been the limit, I feel. Doctor, educator, banker, I think she would been able to do it. It's too late for her now, in her 40s. The country did not provide the opportunities, either in education, or economic advancement, to develop her potential.
Are Singaporeans a whole lot smarter than Malaysians, Indonesians, Taiwanese? Your Myanmese colleague less capable than you? He somehow has inferior genes? Do we work harder then these people? Is it in our DNA?
You know the answer......
What differentiates Singapore from our neighbors, and indeed, many other countries, is the quality of our leadership. This has been cited over and over and over again by think tanks, leaders in other nations, multinationals.
We kid ourselves when we say our success is just down to our people. Yes, the people are the engine, but who's the driver? A bus can go over a cliff if not for an attentive driver (see Germany, Greece, Spain). :siam:
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ST’s report on what the candidates did on cooling day
Great shot of Dr Koh! -
tankee:
Where? where? Got pix to share?ST's report on what the candidates did on cooling day
Great shot of Dr Koh!
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