Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down

[limlim]

Harlequin:

When you sell your flat, do you want to make money? Yes?

So, can the gov sell the new flats at the \"affordable\" price? Selling all the new flats that are significantly lower price than your old/resale flats?
Then who is going to pay the higher price to buy your older flat?


Your flats price appreciate, is not by chance, the market has been carefully crafted out .

I buy flat to stay, not to sell leh.

Locals always need a roof.. visitors naturally only look at profits.

I don't really care if the prices goes up or not.

If prices goes up, I sell high also need to buy high. So? what's the benefit of high prices? unless the person sell already no need to buy? does it applies to locals?

[raysusan]

[quote]Last year, his administration cut ministerial pay, sped up construction of homes and made permanent a program to provide cash and medical funds for the elderly and low-income households. This month, it said it will give priority housing to families with children and provide greater childcare subsidies.

“I asked myself if my life and my standard of living have improved in the last few years, and the answer is no,” said Perry Koh, an insurance agent who’s a Punggol East resident. “Looking at the results, it looks like I’m not the only one who feels that way.”
The island’s population has jumped by more than 1.1 million to 5.3 million since mid-2004, driving up property prices and stoking social tension as the government used immigration to make up for a low birth rate. Strains on the housing market and public services appeared “quite suddenly” rather than progressively or gradually, Lee told a conference today.
“The population grew faster than we expected,” Lee said. “The infrastructure didn’t keep up.”[/quote]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-26/singapore-ruling-party-suffers-vote-defeat-in-setback-for-lee.html

[limlim]

3Boys:

How does knowing the parking woes of residents prepare us for SARs, 9-11, banking crisis, eurozone crisis and interest rates below 1%?

Like it or not, high COE ain't the most important problem in the world.

I agree with this!

But I feel the ministers should at least go and take MRT and buses to understand the pple's needs. These are no \"personal/individual problems\" like COE or parking lots.. This issues affects the whole country..

[3Boys]

rains:

3Boys,


I'm not sure which part of my post emits 'insufferable arrogance'. At least I didn't assume that I am the only one in the world who knows about the history and politics. It doesn't frustrate the hell out of me when others take a different view point.

I am not sure which part of history and politics you so lean towards to that I don't know, but my gripe with their dirty politics goes back to Barisan Socialis. Perhaps you are one of those who are convinced that the BS are communists who ought to have been arrested under that accusation in the first place.

BS connected well with people because they spoke the same language, were on the ground with the common people, and identified with the needs of the people.

50 years those people suffered injustice and gave up their entire life for Singapore. Yet there's nothing no one can do to return the dignity and freedom they were entitled to as well as anyone of us.

Most people are happy and contented with the current state of material life (which includes emotional and social stability) and so they are happy with the ruling party. It doesn't matter what the party do or did to achieve what they achieve/d. You are grateful to them for giving you a prosperous country, a good job and a comfortable life.

To me, I am happy and comfortable with my own life. However, I can never give my respect to people who have used underhanded methods to achieve what they set out to achieve.

Sure, they have constraints. Who doesn't? For a small country run by so many ministers with so much money and resources, it's hard not to have it well-run, really.

I just hate it when you tell me that mc donald's will do just fine when you are dining in a fine-dining restaurant. I hate it when you tell me that my kids don't need tuition when you are splurging on them for your own kids. I hate it when you tell me that at least my aged parents got a cleaner's job to do when your own parents are lounging at home, take strolls for leisure, and go for afternoon tea when they feel like it.

The arrogance to presume that if one were supportive of the g'ment, that one is amoral.

So you take the Teo Soh Lung approach then. Socialist, flat society.

Fine, I can understand that. I feel that way too, society can be more flat. But I generally am not an envious person, Ferraris and Les Amis are a bit uncool.

There is a difference between studying history and being stuck in it.

Politics was dirty business then, it was a shameful period. BUT, it was a different time and a different set of people.

Sons pay for the sins of their fathers, that's what's happening.

[3Boys]

JannettLee:

Harlequin:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]
New couples having to wait 3 years minimum for their first flat...their BTO flat is just an empty shell. Young couples have to save for wedding and renovate their flat and buy furniture. Even if they go for the minimum decor, renovation and furniture adds up.

New flats are in non-mature estates. If these young couples stay there and then start a family, they will be busy fetching/sending bb to and fro parents' place which is usually not near. Reason is bcos newly wedded couples can hardly afford to pay premium prices for resale units near their parents.

I just wonder if my kids can afford to buy a flat in future...or they also face the scenario of having to buy flats in the outskirts. Property prices will not come down.

Anywhere else in the world is just about the same when people buy their first home, that is if they are lucky enough that their gov are capable enough to provide them with cheap public housing as heavenly as Singapore.

Ahem.hmm. You sure Singapore has cheap and heavenly public housing?!!! :yikes:

They should concentrate on their efforts on providing sufficient HDB flats for majority and leave the private property market alone as the old saying those rich people can take care of themselves. Let that be a free market and make people to work hard to achieve to own private property. Why they impose ABSD on Rich foreigner, let them pay premium for high end private property since we are selling them space in the air. This will benefit citizen.

The problem is insufficient HDB flats for majority, MND allows people to retain HDB flat after buying private properties now. They should go back to good old day where these up-grader must sell their HDB flat within 6 months after buying their private property so that they do not hog the HDB flat and create under supply of resale HDB flat. Instead of tackling this problem, they implemented cooling off measures![/quote]Janett, you are contradicting yourself left right and centre. Seriously, you have serious misperceptions about the intent and implementation of the housing policies.

[Imami]

limlim:

refer to the MOM purchases of $500++ chairs and NEA $2k bikes etc....

Mai Luan Luan gong - it's npark who bought $2k bikes, not nea.

[concern2]

3Boys:

Sons pay for the sins of their fathers, that's what's happening.

Yes, 3Boys, this is called karm-- :censored: :siam:

What the people and the parties are going through now are no accidents either.

[limlim]

Imami:

limlim:

refer to the MOM purchases of $500++ chairs and NEA $2k bikes etc....

Mai Luan Luan gong - it's npark who bought $2k bikes, not nea.

sorrie sorrie..... :imsorry: to NEA..... :evil:

[rains]

3Boys:

The arrogance to presume that if one were supportive of the g'ment, that one is amoral.

So you take the Teo Soh Lung approach then. Socialist, flat society.

Fine, I can understand that. I feel that way too, society can be more flat. But I generally am not an envious person, Ferraris and Les Amis are a bit uncool.

There is a difference between studying history and being stuck in it.

Politics was dirty business then, it was a shameful period. BUT, it was a different time and a different set of people.

Sons pay for the sins of their fathers, that's what's happening.

I didn't say that you are amoral because you support the party. Nowhere in my post did I assume that. I just said it's a concern that people don't care what their leaders do as long as their quality of life is improved. That to me is ... warped? It's like I don't care how my husband brings home the bread as long as it's money. He can rob and kill for all I care. I just want my comfort and that's what matters.

I only mentioned the Socialis for the sake of making you realise that you are not the only one who knows about the history. I don't know who Teo Soh Lung is and you are the one who says society is flat. They may call themselves Socialis, but carrying the ideals out is another matter. Just like 'meritocracy' and 'democracy' - I don't buy the talk that we really are.

I am not an envious person. I don't care if the ministers dine fine. Just don't tell me what I have is also first-class when you don't even want it. You mean what is dirty to you is fine for me? Ok, if it's so hard to understand - it's probably the attitude that I detest.

[3Boys]

rains:

I am not an envious person. I don't care if the ministers dine fine. Just don't tell me what I have is also first-class when you don't even want it. You mean what is dirty to you is fine for me? Ok, if it's so hard to understand - it's probably the attitude that I detest.

Sounds pretty disgruntled to me. I'm not even sure what you are even griping at now, with your latest post, you have vacillated between the g'ment not serving the people, to now, the g'ment serving the people, but using nefarious means. Which is it?

The g'ment didn't swindle or embezzle, they did not conduct a war of aggression against another nation, they did not abuse and exploit aboriginals.

Yes, they have a hard nosed economic policy, which fills the coffers.

Is that a crime?

You have a mighty big chip on your shoulder, and you don't even realise it.

If you have an issue with people telling you to accept one thing, but they accepting another, please don't be a child to your parents, since they will be telling you to study, whilst they are out gardening or reading the papers. Please don't work in any kind of company, since the boss will be telling you you are getting what you deserve whilst he may be taking double your pay.

It's a funny axe you are grinding. If indeed you aren't the envious type, one wonders why all the examples you've brought up till now are material ones........on one hand you don't care where people dine, on the other hand you get insulted...... :?