Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

[dolphinsiah]

Dora1:

I was just thinking, if this paper was released last week, what would the BE results be like? :evil: Maybe it will be PAP's turn to lose their deposit :siam:


But of course, they won't be so stupid lah.... now I know why PM called for the BE so fast, he specifically said he wants to get the BE out of the way so that SG can move on to other more important things like the population white paper... :roll:

Yes, I have same thoughts too....

This report shows that MIW consist of talented people who plan 'Shiu Shiu report...with no human correlation....

Only show how to bring in $$$$$....

I thought MIW was showing some human sense , when they said they want to listen and engage in discussion with the common people....

I am very disappointed.....

[WeiHan]

What white paper?


It sounds like the good work from General Chan’s department.

[Laura02]

It’s not the figure of 7 million that I dislike, but the fact the they keep moving the goalpost upwards. When the graduate mother scheme was proposed, I think the goal was 3.5 million. Now it’s 7 million. By 2030, would the target then be 10 million?

[Harlequin]

pirate:

raysusan:

[quote]Singapore's population could hit 6.9 million by 2030


The proposal is to take in 30,000 new permanent residents (PR) every year which will keep the PR population stable at about half a million. Then, from this pool, take in 15,000 to 25,000 new citizens each year, to stop the citizen population from shrinking.

At this rate, by 2030, Singapore's total population numbers should hit between 6.5 and 6.9 million.

:nailbite: :nailbite:

The population white paper is, shall we say, underwhelming.

At the rate of 15,000 to 25,000 new citizens each year, and a birth rate of about 35,000 babies a year, by that time up to 40% of adult male Singapore citizens would have never done NS before in their lives. No, the numbers do not add up. I think the people at NPTD have to work harder.
You have not factor in the mortality rate. :evil:

Edit: And if these 15-25k includes children who will have dual citizenship until they turn 21, who knows what proportion of the boys will give up their acquired SC to dodge NS? Then, we will be left with the aged parents come 2040. :faint:
No dual citizenship allowed, this group will remain as PR till they do or dodge NS[/quote]

[raysusan]

Imagine if this white paper was out before BE.

[JannettLee]

I have no problem with this white paper as long as they have good plans in place like housing and infrastructures, etc… in place to cater for this up and coming population.

[Harlequin]

raysusan:

Imagine if this white paper was out before BE.

They would be too suku to do that, :evil:

The hastily set BE is kind of self-explained by now. Having to craft all the unpleasant and unpopular policies really hurt their bottomline. And, no one appreciate also No wonder LTK started to and downplayed.

[pirate]

Harlequin:

pirate:

The population white paper is, shall we say, underwhelming.


At the rate of 15,000 to 25,000 new citizens each year, and a birth rate of about 35,000 babies a year, by that time up to 40% of adult male Singapore citizens would have never done NS before in their lives. No, the numbers do not add up. I think the people at NPTD have to work harder.
You have not factor in the mortality rate. :evil:

Edit: And if these 15-25k includes children who will have dual citizenship until they turn 21, who knows what proportion of the boys will give up their acquired SC to dodge NS? Then, we will be left with the aged parents come 2040. :faint:
No dual citizenship allowed, this group will remain as PR till they do or dodge NS

Of course I have factored in the mortality rate. The 15-25k new citizens per year is going forwards from here. I seriously doubt immigrants have a materially higher mortality rate than our babies.

If the parents convert to SC, the children also become SC and will hold dual citizenship until 21 when they have to elect which to keep. But that is beside the point. If they do dodge NS, they will not remain in Singapore. But their parents (the 1st generation SCs) will, and the parents will contribute to those who are aged in 2030-2050. So projecting to 2030, where is the younger SCs from today's new SCs?

That is why I say the maths do not add up.

[Harlequin]

pirate:

Harlequin:

[quote=\"pirate\"]The population white paper is, shall we say, underwhelming.


At the rate of 15,000 to 25,000 new citizens each year, and a birth rate of about 35,000 babies a year, by that time up to 40% of adult male Singapore citizens would have never done NS before in their lives. No, the numbers do not add up. I think the people at NPTD have to work harder.
You have not factor in the mortality rate. :evil:

Edit: And if these 15-25k includes children who will have dual citizenship until they turn 21, who knows what proportion of the boys will give up their acquired SC to dodge NS? Then, we will be left with the aged parents come 2040. :faint:
No dual citizenship allowed, this group will remain as PR till they do or dodge NS

Of course I have factored in the mortality rate. The 15-25k new citizens per year is going forwards from here. I seriously doubt immigrants have a materially higher mortality rate than our babies.

If the parents convert to SC, the children also become SC and will hold dual citizenship until 21 when they have to elect which to keep. But that is beside the point. If they do dodge NS, they will not remain in Singapore. But their parents (the 1st generation SCs) will, and the parents will contribute to those who are aged in 2030-2050. So projecting to 2030, where is the younger SCs from today's new SCs?

That is why I say the maths do not add up.[/quote]Ok, you win :rahrah:

[lim72]

This is no laughing matter, it concerns everyone of us & our future generation, if we still want to call this country our home and ourselves as Singaporeans.