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    Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

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      WeiHan
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      Trying to justify 6.9 million in Singapore is akin to imperial Japan justifying invasion to greater asia. All in the name of survival. Be careful.

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        limlim
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        octoberbaby:
        One of our taiwanese friends got her PR few months after her arrival. She said her agent in Taiwan will handle all everything concerning Singapore Immigrations. She paid SIN$10,000.00 to get whole family PR status thru this Taiwanese agent.

        She came her, few mths later, bought HDB 4 room flat. Few months later she rent a master-bed room in condo. Rent out her 4-rm flat. She is a study-mama, husband doing china business.
        That is illegal for her case!

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          octoberbaby
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          What is WHITE paper? any sample how is it look like? who wrote in that WHITE paper?

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            ponyo
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            just wondering if the party whip will be lifted for the MPs to discuss this whitepaper…

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              ponyo
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              octoberbaby:
              What is WHITE paper? any sample how is it look like? who wrote in that WHITE paper?

              Hi Octoberbaby,
              you can download the paper here:
              http://population.sg/

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                octoberbaby
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                Hey, thanks for the link. Who download my wedding photo there?

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                  Dora1
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                  limlim:
                  octoberbaby:

                  One of our taiwanese friends got her PR few months after her arrival. She said her agent in Taiwan will handle all everything concerning Singapore Immigrations. She paid SIN$10,000.00 to get whole family PR status thru this Taiwanese agent.

                  She came her, few mths later, bought HDB 4 room flat. Few months later she rent a master-bed room in condo. Rent out her 4-rm flat. She is a study-mama, husband doing china business.

                  That is illegal for her case!

                  Can lah last time resale MOP only 1 year mah. After that anything also can lah.

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                    octoberbaby
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                    There are agents in China, Taiwan and other countries whose open price is about SIN$10,000 one time payment. These agents will do everything until you get a PR. Does Singapore Immigration know about the existence of such asgent?

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                      WeiHan
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                      goldfish2013:
                      3Boys:

                      You may have seen this before


                      http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=8321


                      Is Population Growth a Ponzi Scheme?

                      The basic pitch of those promoting population growth is straightforward in its appeal: \"More is better.\" Joseph Chamie, who has spent a lifelong career as a demographer, including 12 years of service as the director of the United Nations Population Division, finds that more is not necessarily better.

                      It really looks like we are falling into it.

                      3boys is fast in reading Lucky Tan's blog nowaday which he used to dismiss as someone with an axe to grind with the government.

                      I don't think what people accusation of the ruling party is conspiracy theory. People in the ground can feel the effect long ago, just that they are not as articulated as scholars. a quote form the article succintly described the situation \"profits is privatised....the social cost of population increase nationalised..\" In simple words, the increase in population benefits a small group of connected elites through fat profits but the cost of increased population is spread out to the entire population. No wonder, average Joe don't feel the benefits of recent economic growth but only feel the cost.

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                        concern2:
                        Funz:

                        [quote=\"concern2\"]
                        You'd be surprised how many actually 'adopted' others' kids in the olden days when they wanted to have a boy / girl in an all-sons/all-daughters household. Some gave birth but not able to afford to bring up so many and was willing to let neighbour or relative bring them up.

                        In the olden days, carrying on one's surname means something. To have children is fortune and they believe in yang er fang lau.

                        Today, what is the big deal with carrying on the surname, children are a burden, rely on kid in one's old age, rather rely on oneself.

                        Different mindset.

                        Yes, I so agree with this! The older folks were wiser![/quote]Hmm... I don't think yang er fang lau is wiser...

                        better 靠自己... have children because you want to, because you think it's meaningful, not because of their perceived economic value to you in old age...

                        that's why we're called the sandwich generation. look after parents (too late liao, they 养儿防老 mentality so didn't save for their own retirement, we bo pian have to provide for them), look after kids, gotta save for own retirement cos really shouldn't expect kids to have the means to look after us in old age.

                        times are different... those who believe they can still 养儿防老 are probably setting themselves up for disappointment. not that the kids are not fillial, but it's just going to be increasingly hard for them...

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